Probably because both go together, and it has hardly changed anything when everything else keeps using plastic, a I feel good measure.

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RamblingCTO a day ago | parent [-]

Again: I don't get it. Straws, bottle caps etc. are all reduced now. That's good. Step by step. Small litter is the worst imho

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pjmlp 21 hours ago | parent [-]

Reduced where?

Paper straws are such a nuisance how quickly they get wasted, that it is rather easy to find 1 euro shops selling "classical" straws.

Bottle caps being tied to the bottles hardly matters, it is quite common to see people in parks or at the beach, breaking the cap from the bottle to split them as always.

Then supermarkets still deliver most of the goods from several food areas in plastic containers for the most part.

What is worst is lack of education from most people, that throw away their garbage all over the place, regardless if it is paper, metal, cardboard, wood,....

This is the problem that paper straws hardly solve, other than what, I feel good when those people "forget" their paper straws on the beach and camping ground all over the place?

	▲	RamblingCTO 16 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Paper straws suck, yes. But there are plenty of better alternatives. And just because it doesn't solve all issues at once, doesn't mean it's not worthwhile. > Bottle caps being tied to the bottles hardly matters, it is quite common to see people in parks or at the beach, breaking the cap from the bottle to split them as always. That's just not true and overly cynical. I also find it annoying, but the truth is that it has an impact. I'm not interested in further discussion I'm afraid.