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HumblyTossed 4 hours ago

Ice cream is 1.5 qt not 1/2 gallon. I don't know what they put into pizza "dough" but it's not real flour.

Everything has been spreadsheeted to death.

buran77 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To be honest, for some things, getting a smaller serving and/or higher price is a blessing in disguise - health-wise at least. Same with soda servings where very large cups or bottles encourage higher consumption.

insane_dreamer 3 hours ago | parent [-]

except that soda is (sadly) one case where the cups have gotten bigger. did they even have 32 oz "extra extra gulp" size 30 years ago?

philipkglass 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The 32 oz "Big Gulp" was introduced by 7-11 in 1976 in Southern California:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Gulp

Even bigger sizes arrived in the 1980s:

Called Big Gulp because it was initially the largest such drink available at any retailer, 7-Eleven eventually introduced larger sizes. In 1986, they introduced the 44-US-fluid-ounce (1,300 ml) Super Big Gulp, followed by the 64-US-fluid-ounce (1,900 ml) Double Gulp in 1989 (later reduced to 50-US-fluid-ounce (1,500 ml))...

phil21 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They were more absurd in the 90's. You'd have the gas station 64oz reusable cups you could use to do unlimited refills for a dollar.

"Super Size" was a 90's thing as well, if I recall. It was basically an arms race of which company could provide the most ridiculously large portions of a cheap product like soda or fries.

Then the PR swung in the 00's due to the obesity epidemic and such stuff was silently rolled back. Likely for both PR and cost reasons. The 32oz drink stuck around though pretty much everywhere.

Merad 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh yes, the 1990s was the height of massive fast food drinks. Wendy's had 32 oz "biggie" drinks and a 40+ oz "great biggie". McDonalds had "super size" tho I don't recall its volume. Most of those got renamed by the mid 00's and eventually downsized.

Gormo 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Ice cream is 1.5 qt not 1/2 gallon.

Except Blue Bell, who use a bright banner on their packaging to call out "Still 1/2 Gal!".

annoyingnoob 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The thing about ice cream is overrun. How much air is in that half gallon today vs 30 years ago? I'm sure you are buying more air today.

vel0city 3 hours ago | parent [-]

"Ice cream" has a legal minimum density floor of 4.5lbs per gallon. It has been that way since 1958. If they're mixing more air than that per gallon, they can't legally call it "ice cream".

https://www.nytimes.com/1958/03/26/archives/u-s-issues-an-ic...

The term "ice cream" is pretty well regulated in the US. Really shows where our priorities are as Americans.

pimlottc an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> The term "ice cream" is pretty well regulated in the US. Really shows where our priorities are as Americans.

Most natural food products are regulated in the US [0]. Ice cream is not unique in this regard, nor is the standard is particularly onerous compared to others. It easily fits on single page [1].

0: https://www.ams.usda.gov/grades-standards

1: https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/IceCreamI...

annoyingnoob 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That is the minimum. If you were making a heavier product then you could add more overrun as a form of shrinkflation, its real.

fluoridation 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why not just measure it by weight then? That's what we do here.

sophacles 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And a lot of 'ice cream' tubs in the "ice cream" section of your grocery store are "frozen dairy desert" not ice cream. They are packaged like Ice Cream, flavored like Ice cream, and appear to be Ice Cream. But the words Ice Cream do not appear and instead a hard to spot "frozen dairy desert" is somewhere on the packaging.

vel0city an hour ago | parent [-]

If they want to make a frozen concoction of a ton of candy bars and cookies and fudge and milk and sugar and churn it all up to be nearly the consistency of chunky whipped cream I don't see any reason to not allow that to be sold as a product if we're allowing all that candy and what not anyways. I'm glad its not allowed to be labelled ice cream.

And if they're making a product like that, where else would you prefer for that to be put? In between the porkchops and the steaks? Maybe between the crackers and the chips?

I don't quite get where you're going with this other than to suggest they shouldn't even be allowed to make such a thing at all and sell it in stores.

sophacles 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

The point is its another phenomenon similar to the shrinkflation and quiet ingredient substitution. I'm commenting on how the not-technically-human marketing creatures try to get you to think that you're buying ice cream when you're buying something else of lesser value.

Particularly when its something like Breyer's light - its literally sold next to the Ice cream equivalent from Breyers and is designed to be ice cream in all but density requirements. Most people would call it ice cream and never know its designed to trick them into accepting something that is lesser quality for the same price.

As to where I'm going with it - well I'm just pointing out another form of the stupid shit. I can't wait to see how you flip out when I point out all the ways that they try to trick people into believing they are buying meat.

xp84 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's why crap companies like Dreyers mostly doesn't sell it anymore, they sell "Frozen Dairy Dessert" in fine print but with giant ice-cream-evocative words above it.

throwaway2037 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

    > I don't know what they put into pizza "dough" but it's not real flour.
This is a weird claim. Wheat is so incredibly cheap in the developed world; why would you bother with a substitute for a regular pizza? Also, can you share any specifics or details? Honestly, I don't really believe your claim.
gruez 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I don't know what they put into pizza "dough" but it's not real flour.

That conspiracy doesn't make sense given that flour is probably the cheapest ingredient in a pizza besides water. You'd have a hard time finding something cheaper, not to mention hiding it (either from the ingredients list, or from your conspirators)

moate 3 hours ago | parent [-]

As someone who hates the government and the megacorps, I loathe statements like the OPs because there are so many legit and real reasons to hate shit before we come up with "KFC doesn't call themselves Kentucky Fried Chicken anymore because there isn't enough chicken in their product" type of conspiracy nonsense.

Also, based on the statement, you're buying shit pizza from trash restaurants/frozen garbage. That's why the crust is bad. Pizza is one of the cheapest things you can make, that's why when I worked in restaurants I always said if you can't make money selling pizza you need to get out of the industry.

detourdog 2 hours ago | parent [-]

In the 80-90's fried food was vilified and they wanted to start selling things beyond chicken. The old name carried prejudices the corporate overlords wanted to eliminate.

stephenhuey an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Blue Bell is a real half gallon.