Fair points, but those preferences seem more grounded in reality than the abstract reasons people say they love a language beyond its interface

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oblio an hour ago | parent [-]

Libraries and frameworks and package management absolutely matter. They're not some abstract thing, they could be the difference between something being done in 6 months or in 2 years.

Why do you think people put up with Spring?

	▲	purplemoonx 19 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		1000% that's why I said "Fair points" I consider npm to be part of "the interface of JavaScript" and to your point it's one of the strongest reasons beyond performance to use Node over some other dynamic language like Ruby or PHP. Python earned its keep mainly because of its library ecosystem (again to your point) but also due to its simple, teachable syntax. My point is that Python is not used because it's highly performant - it's basically the slowest language there is. But because people like the syntax and the library ecosystem (AKA the interface to the language)