The default is set for the marginal new user, which at this point is probably not someone like you (who benefits a lot from manual mode) -- it's someone who's more "code-naive" and might get anxious about approving random bash script commands they don't recognize. Safely getting the user from prompt --> first vibe-coded app is the "user journey" now, and since auto mode seems pretty good at not letting Claude rm -rf'ing the home directory, this is 100% the right business move. For people who know what they're doing (like you), manual mode is just a shift-tab away

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mcmcmc 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> it's someone who's more "code-naive" and might get anxious about approving random bash script commands they don't recognize.

Maybe they should trust their instinct and not mess with things they don’t care to understand

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natpalmer1776 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It’s a brave new world.

I recall hearing similar sentiments from linux sysadmins regarding cloud infrastructure. In many respects they were and continue to be correct. In other respects, the world doesn’t care about the loss in understanding as long as things work “well enough” for the cogs of society to keep turning.

For those who do care (and have the aptitude) to understand things deeper there is always work to be had when “well enough” stops being good enough and someone has to unravel the “RDS queries are taking too long” problems that crop up as a result.

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9dev an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What an awful position to take. Tech used to be about becoming more accessible to people! now we have a magical assistant to make computers do what you want with natural language, and your desire is gate keeping that so only programmers can use it to write software for themselves?

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Certhas 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I am using many many many things that I don't understand. Cars, public transport, etc...

I review and test the end product, not every tiny step along the way. If the LLM uses some command line tools I have never heard of to create a model I can verify, why should I learn a tool that is completely irrelevant to my core expertise?

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jason1cho an hour ago | parent [-]

Many many people care more than the end product, for example whether a shirt is made of cotton with the forced labor, carbon emissions of public transport, etc.

In terms of engineering software, you care the cost. An intelligent agent may try to read unnecessary files and it's time to stop it to save tokens and avoid polluting the context.

	▲	usef- 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		He didn't advocate for being completely blind in every way. You might care about working conditions without understanding how the textiles, dyes or cotton production works. These non-programmers probably shouldnt use computers at all, right, since they don't understand them?

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vikramkr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think the marginal new user is anxious about approving messages - I think they're quickly annoyed by permissions prompt they don't understand and quickly get in the habit of approving everything or figuring out how to set bypass permissions on

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lukan 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I am actually curious, how much non programmers use claude now. I know just one and she really does not know much about computers, I suppose their numbers will grow (but I doubt most get much value out of it).

	▲	jason1cho an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I think a lot of non programmers use Claude. I mean if you don't care code, you are essentially a product manager who gives instructions to your programmers (whether humans or intelligent agents). Then if you use the created product, you are at best a test engineer if not just an ordinary user. I think in the era of AI, people get tools they want in an expensive way. Rather than finding an existing tool, they ask an intelligent agent to parrot one, which guarantees no safety, security, efficiency, and accuracy. Yet, being able to use Claude makes them feel smart and productive (in parroting wheels).