| ▲ | wewewedxfgdf an hour ago |
| The core fabric of society - the deal that was offered by society to the people - to work in a job, own a house, raise a family, have a retirement - has decayed away entirely for many people. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| This is quite a new deal and not one enjoyed by most people for most of history. |
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| ▲ | AngryData a minute ago | parent [-] | | Is that not how the 95% of the population of farmers lived before industrialization? The only difference is the job being their own farm or trade. |
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| ▲ | crooked-v an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The housing part never 'decayed', it was actively blocked by the people who already had homes. That's why you see things now like California actively overriding local zoning. |
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| ▲ | cucumber3732842 44 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >, it was actively blocked by the people who already had homes. You're not wrong but this is too simplistic and avoids holding up a mirror that really ought to be held up. Zoning was the "we're gonna regulate our way into utopia" of their time. The class of useful idiots who made it happen and the class of useful idiots who will go to bat for it's continuance because they make a buck on it is far broader than that. | | |
| ▲ | tptacek 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It's not simplistic. It is literally the core problem with housing. Zoning had a first objective of preventing Black families from moving into white neighborhoods, and then, in the 1980s, assumed a new role of driving scarcity (and thus the price of houses in areas of opportunity, to the benefit of existing homeowners). |
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