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simonw 5 hours ago

> Usage of AI services has shifted dramatically to Chinese providers - from 4% at the beginning of the year to some 30% now.

Where did you see that number?

flatline 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I knew when I wrote that it was a bare assertion, based partly on memory. This is an approximation based on a few sources, the principal of which was this article, which pulls from a bunch of other sources in turn.

https://www.secondtalent.com/resources/ai-trends-in-china/

simonw 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh, it's the OpenRouter number: https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/china-ai-mo...

Those numbers aren't credible IMO because OpenRouter only see traffic for people who have chosen to route their traffic through OpenRouter. If you do that, you're much more likely to be experimenting with alternative models. They have no insight at all into people who point their applications directly at OpenAI or Anthropic without having OpenRouter in the middle.

flatline 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I agree about OpenRouter. The AI Gateway number [0] is likely the figure that was actually coming to mind. Moreover, Qwen models alone have overtaken the previously-dominant Llama models in hf downloads by quite a margin.

Real question, and a refinement to my previous statement: would you find it more surprising if over 25% of worldwide inference was running on Chinese open-weight models, or not? I personally would not be shocked.

[0] https://vercel.com/blog/ai-gateway-production-index-july-202...

simonw 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I wouldn't be too surprised by that, given both the size of the Chinese market and the enormous price discount you get compared to the US models.