> your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happened

as a german i feel the urge to point out that this technically also applies to european companies... With more hurdles for the US, but still technically applicable

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jacquesm 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's true but the EU still has a - mostly - functioning legal system. See 'Schrems' and other lawsuits that came out as they should have.

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perks_12 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Take a look at how they play with regards to chat control. The EU is just the same corrupt BS like D.C., only with a lot more virtue signaling.

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jacquesm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sorry, I don't agree with that. The amount of corruption in the USA right now is simply off the scale.

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sneak an hour ago | parent [-]

Nah, it’s just more visible. It’s not that much of a sea change. And it’s ridiculously naive to pretend that the major countries in Europe don’t have their own mechanisms to regularly and effectively bypass any democratic inconveniences when necessary. They regularly push through things that no constituent would ever want or vote for.

	▲	LastTrain 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Nah, it’s worse now than ever.

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sscaryterry 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not nearly the same thing. Trump and his family have made billions. I cannot say the same of von der Leyen.

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usernomdeguerre 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

True, I think the calculus is more about who you think is more trustworthy than what tools they have to damage you.

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throwawayffffas 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am almost positive things are not the way they were and requests for data access especially if the subjects background is "suspect" are more highly scrutinized.

And as the Americans are choosing to interfere in European domestic politics and trample their own laws and constitution the more scrutiny their requests will get.

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slow_typist 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Especially if European companies have an office and significant share of customers in the US.