Those are very different scenarios because your "protection" is the threat of consequences. You can freely buy and use knives, you can drive your own car, but you can only use your phone to do what Apple approves of? Sure, banning knives, replacing cars with public transport, and locking down all computers should be safer in theory... but murderers will still murder and scammers will still scam.

Social engineering is the weakest link even if your grandma is doing all her banking on Windows XP.

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ceejayoz a day ago | parent | next [-]

> You can freely buy and use knives…

No, not necessarily. Quite a few countries have restrictions on knives, including some parts of the US - a switchblade will get you in trouble in NYC.

> you can drive your own car

Only in approved ways!

Hell, you'll get in trouble if your gasoline is the wrong color.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dye#Fuel_dye_in_North_Ame...

"Detection of red-dyed fuel in the fuel system of an on-road vehicle will incur substantial penalties."

> murderers will still murder and scammers will still scam

Do we not take steps to try and reduce murder?

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Rohansi a day ago | parent [-]

> Hell, you'll get in trouble if your gasoline is the wrong color.

You've missed my point even though it's right in front of you. You won't get in trouble for using your Apple device in non-approved ways because it doesn't let you. Would you ban cars for everyone because it's not safe for grandma to drive anymore? Probably not - so why lock down devices for everyone?

> Do we not take steps to try and reduce murder?

Not directly? Gun/knife control probably helps but people willing to risk the consequences of murder are not going to care about breaking more laws to get illegal weapons. Or just use a weapon that's easy to get.

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ceejayoz a day ago | parent [-]

> You won't get in trouble for using your Apple device in non-approved ways because it doesn't let you.

The government won't let me use my car in non-approved ways. They will, in fact, stop me with guns at times.

I'm not even allowed to purchase some items, let alone use as I please. I'm allowed to buy (or sell) a https://www.fairphone.com/ style device! But no one really wants them.

	▲	Rohansi a day ago \| parent [-]
		> But no one really wants them. Not relevant. Most people don't choose their phone/platform based on how much freedom it gives you. An iPhone is a very good phone overall but the restrictions are unfortunately bundled in. You're obviously fine with it but it is only going to get worse in the future. The whole Android developer verification thing is a step in the same direction from Google's side. Eventually macOS will be locked down or even phased out - most young people just do everything on their phone now so why not? I don't want to accept that future so I'm not supporting platforms that restrict it.

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NetMageSCW 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

When did Apple hold a gun to your head and make you buy an iPhone?

	▲	Rohansi 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		They didn't, and I don't have one, but it's looking like Android phones are going to be locked down in the future too. Everything else will slowly lose compatibility with the apps you need.