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| ▲ | elmer2 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | "with apparently ZERO ability to get any kind of skilled job ever again" Unless it's a criminal record holding you back, I really don't think this is the case. Since 2012, I know lots of people that changed careers. | | |
| ▲ | underlipton 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Survivorship bias. You know what's as bad as a criminal record for your career prospects, in America? Being a black man. Having autism. Being over 50. Being a single mother. Being an immigrant without local credentials. Having a long employment gap. Having social anxiety. Having a physical disability. On and on. The first step to solving the problem is acknowledging the problem, not throwing earnest observations of dysfunction into the, "I know a short guy who gets lots of sex, height doesn't matter," bin. |
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| ▲ | soperj 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | what were you doing in 2012? | | |
| ▲ | notsmarthuh2 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | A "high tech" dead end career that my friends, family, and society were happy to usher me into with big promises of a bright shining tomorrow, only for me to find out too late that it's a dead end, worthless job. Much of this time I wanted to switch into computer programming instead, which I've been doing on my own since I was 8 years old. Over the years I've built my own Linux distro from scratch, developed a heavily customized version of the Chromium web browser, and other interesting stuff. But oh noes, I don't have the right piece of paper to prove I'm worth anything, and I'm not planning to waste 4+ years of my life and $50k+ to get said paper, so nobody has any use for me. Once I dared to become self-employed and stayed out of the job market a few years, then I was considered forever useless and unemployable on that basis alone. The job market doesn't want employees, or business owners, it wants slaves. Any extended period of "unemployment" (or underemployment) is the kiss of death. Frankly, a lot of the programming jobs these days are shit anyhow (especially the type of crap posted to HN's Who's Hiring) so it's hard to get excited about any of it, and at 40+ I am now unemployable due to age anyway, so it's pointless to apply for anything. | | |
| ▲ | gamblor956 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The job market doesn't want employees, or business owners, it wants slaves. I know plenty of people who went into contracting (aka self-employment) and later found full-time jobs (frequently with clients) across multiple white collar industries, including programming. They were all in their 30s and 40s. In many cases, going the self-employment route actually made them more valuable to future employers. I also know plenty of people without a degree who went into programming. Over the years I've built my own Linux distro from scratch, developed a heavily customized version of the Chromium web browser, and other interesting stuff. If this were true you'd be gainfully employed by now. Coming out of COVID, companies were hiring people just because they knew what an IDE was. Based on your comments though, it's easy to understand why you haven't been able to find a job. I wouldn't want to work with someone as negative as you and I can't imagine anyone would want to work with someone so emotionally draining. | | |
| ▲ | facepalm1 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > If this were true you'd be gainfully employed by now. So you're saying it's not true? You're calling me a liar? > Based on your comments though, it's easy to understand Let me stop you right there. No, you do not, in fact, actually understand anything at all. Profound, lasting, unassailable ignorance is a defining characteristic of your life. Yet you still feel an overpowering need to share your clueless, uninformed, and reductive opinions and judgments with us anyhow. Fact check: you do not in fact know me, my situation, or anything about my life other than the brief sentences I just now chose to share with you. Your haughty judgment is ignorant and worthless. Thanks for your useless comment. Drive through. | | |
| ▲ | underlipton 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Someone is going to chime in about the tone of this post, with the ramifications of a decade-and-a-half of rejection on one's outlook flying right over their head. If the underemployed and NEETs got half the consideration that extroverts jonesing for just one water cooler chat (just one, man) got during the pandemic, we'd be one our way to solving not only their problems, but also the ones that they're uniquely equipped to tackle. | | |
| ▲ | facepalm1 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > with the ramifications of a decade-and-a-half of rejection on one's outlook flying right over their head. Thanks for having a clue. EDIT: I would say more, but what's the point? If any honest feelings are expressed that in any way reflect negatively (perish the thought) on anyone here or their crock-of-shit pet theories, it will be flagged and censored with no recourse. Because God is the moderator of this forum, and His judgment is all knowing and perfect. It's not possible to criticize these raging assholes or any of the daily doings of their fucked up, selfish, corrupt society, as they have outlawed all criticism of themselves. Only they are allowed to criticize others. This place is a toxic shithole, and I can't wait to watch it burn. Go ahead and flag this one too, fucking losers. |
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| ▲ | gamblor956 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Thank you for proving my point. Enjoy being unemployable. You don't need to be an extrovert to be employed. I'm not, and neither are most of my coworkers. But you do need to not be a hyper-aggressive sack of negativity that emotionally drains everyone around you. So deal with that, and you might be able to land a job before you pass. | | |
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| ▲ | shimman 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Community college programs are extremely cheap, and state schools are a thing. It's also not unheard of for any state workers to get lower tuition costs as a benefit. You're 40+, you have like potentially another 40+ years to live a life you want. If all it takes is a degree from a public university and some white knuckling for 4-6 years to then get the life you want to work in, is that such a burden to bare? Wouldn't you want to at least try to achieve your dreams before giving up? You have the experience and smarts to know how to succeed if you want, so why give up 4 decades before the game is over? | | |
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| ▲ | tayo42 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I've been curious about leaving software but it really feels impossible. Theresa no careers that you can learn on the job and you need to go back for another 4year degree to maybe get into the entry level job,no guarantee though. |
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