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mcdow 2 hours ago

y’all seem to be missing the fact that Java is a mature product. it has left the “move fast and break things” era of it’s development.

code is a liability, and they likely have more to lose than gain by allowing AI contribution.

dan_q 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's a clear admission that AI generated/assisted code is inadequate.

It's shocking given Oracle's AI spending spree over the last couple of years.

asdfman123 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think it's more a matter of "taking power tools away from toddlers."

If you know how to work with it it's great, but if you use it indiscriminately it does more harm than good.

dgellow an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

yeah, oracle is literally betting the future of the company on OpenAI owning the majority of the AI market, so it's pretty strange to see such a ban. Their debt is already pretty much junk (and I'm not exaggerating, it is rated BBB- by s&p)

ActorNightly 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oracle Java is also basically effectively in KTLO mode.

The biggest use of Java currently is Android, and Google is on a path to migrate to Fuchsia eventually.

The second biggest use is Apache Spark/Kafka, but with LLMs now, you can pretty much re implement all of that functionality in pure C.

They just want a legal angle, since this is how they make most of their money.

ternaryoperator 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

Not sure where u get your information. Oracle Java is OpenJDK with a support license from Oracle. It is widely used in enterprises, and it is updated regularly.

theandrewbailey an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Java was never "move fast and break things".