Kimi K3 was an interesting model only a month ago, and now we're looking at the same performance for 1/20th of the price. Wild how fast this is advancing.

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MarkLowenstein 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Real question: is there anybody that is both maintaining alpha-dev capability by keeping abreast of all these daily changes, while also reserving enough time to actually work?

Seems like we've reached the event horizon of whether AI advances are worth paying attention to.

	▲	cyanydeez 5 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Are you saying we've reached peak Bike shedding?

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dyauspitr 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not for long, Deepseek is saying they will have a significant price jump soon. They really shouldn’t do it because they are on the cusp of capturing the scalable API market.

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whinvik 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah either the benchmark isn't very useful anymore or V4 Flash is a really, really good model.

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fallingbananna 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

GPT 5.6 Luna is an extremely cheap and still very capable model.

A chinese model being in the same ballpark of capability at half the price sounds believable to me.

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ignoramous an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

In my use, DeepSeek v4 Flash (which replaced the quite excellent MiniMax M3) lags behind GLM 5.2 & Muse Spark 1.2 (let alone Kimi K3). Also, K3 is a much bigger multi-modal model, while Flash is text-only and likely optimised for coding tasks.

	▲	nwienert an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yep, and the v4 flash final is about 2.5x slower than preview making it no longer a fast model, in fact slower than Luna and bigger models in many cases. Spark is actually the interesting one imo. It's significantly better, also significantly faster. If you are ok with letting Meta soak up your data (which DS does too) it's also the same price.

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thehamkercat an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

And now nobody seems interested in it because the price hasn't gone down

it's still $3/$15 for all providers on openrouter

because of some Kimi license

https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k3#providers

	▲	johnnyApplePRNG 39 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Morph has it for a slight discount, apparently. Uptime looks crap, though.