I kind of get their overall point, even if it is ironic that Oracle is all in on AI. They don’t want a ton of contributions to review that weren’t made with care, adding burden to, as they put it: “already limited time of human reviewers”.

Especially for a project that runs to many major businesses, this could pose a massive risk.

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asdfman123 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I understand the intent of it. It's really annoying/rude when someone gives you a pile of AI generated crap and says "here, you figure it out." Anyone can type these prompts now, the hard part is figuring out if the output makes sense.

Seems like a better way to do this than ban all AI generated code, but it's probably a matter where they're far more concerned about their own inconvenience than someone else's.

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cautiouscat an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Ghostty has what I’d consider to be a reasonable policy. You submit what you want to change and how, explain it in your own words. A trusted member can vouch for you. You can then make a PR, but you need to explain the solution and how it works in your own words.

I’m sure someone could still just prompt their way through but it’s a decent soft gate IMO.

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asdfman123 an hour ago | parent [-]

Really, I think the long term solution is people's attitudes need to catch up with the technology.

Humans still need to review code for taste, making sure AI is writing sensible, well organized output. That's a core "AI skill" for now, at least until it gets better...

	▲	nemomarx 41 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		If ai rapidly gets better, then instead of submitting prs you can ask your agent to fork and improve the project and bypass the policy that way. if it goes slower they have time to reconsider policies in the future. if it doesn't improve then we can probably find out some middle ground approach like the ghostty one in any of those cases there's no reason to get swamped by cheap PRs for now

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delusional an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> the hard part is figuring out if the output makes sense.

I think for Java specifically, it's also very much: which prompts make sense to write. Java has had a storied history of features that made future development hard. That's resulted in a culture where they like to think quite deeply about how to add a feature BEFORE they sanction any sort of programming.

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quickthrowman 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oracle is primarily a legal department that sells software licenses to give their lawyers something to extract money from customers with.

Google “Oracle org chart meme” and look at image results, only it’s not a meme.

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blmarket 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

(bit sarcastic) Oracle was always all in on Lawyers, right? No software was their first priority.

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jknoepfler 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Let's just pause for a second and steep in the irony of "we're all in on AI, except where there are visible consequences."

The same problems that bedevil AI-written PRs here bedevil AI-written PRs at my place of work.

I'm sure it'll get better eventually, maybe, but something something Pareto principle.

	▲	dan_q 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> The same problems that bedevil AI-written PRs here bedevil AI-written PRs at my place of work. >I'm sure it'll get better eventually, maybe Why would it get better?

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thewebguyd 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Probably has less to do with quality and more of a copyright/license concern.

	▲	cautiouscat 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I’m just going off the reasons they gave. Which highlight both copyright and quality. Both of those make sense to me.

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chrisjj 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> even if it is ironic that Oracle is all in on AI

Selling it is one thing. Having to use it one's self is quite another.

	▲	dan_q an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I know you've heard this one before: "Never get high on your own supply."

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jqpabc123 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Any way you spin it, the message remains clear --- dealing with AI slop is just too labor intensive and risky.

Do as Larry does --- not as Larry claims to do.

I would short his stock but it has already lost half it's value over the past year. And his credit rating is one notch above junk.

AI is going to make fools out of a lot of billionaires like Larry.

	▲	dan_q an hour ago \| parent [-]
		The Oracle AI ban marks the end of the Kayfabe era. Even the biggest institutional AI investors have to ban their contributors from spamming them with AI generated slop.