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nunez 13 hours ago

> The BLS said employment contracted the most in “local government education,” which declined by 50,000 roles, likely reflecting teachers during summer break.

This is not entirely accurate. AFAIK, teachers usually remain on payroll throughout the summer. This stat _might_ be talking about contractual teaching roles, like adjuncts or subs, but it's hard to say from that BLS category.

JeremyNT 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not to mention, if it's seasonal for any reason then it's something that should be baked into the cyclical expectations already.

It's like reporting that Spirit of Halloween employees accounted for the biggest retailer layoffs in November. It's a totally useless statistic that tells you nothing about what might really be going on that month that's abnormal compared to baseline.

litoE 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> teachers usually remain on payroll throughout the summer.

That is not exactly accurate. When I was teaching, my salary was for 9 months only. I was paid in 12 monthly installments to smooth out my income, but technically I was not on the University's payroll during the summer months. That allowed me to seek full-time employment elsewhere (e.g. consulting) during the summer which was not allowed during the other 9 months.

Jcampuzano2 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is correct, teachers don't just stop getting paid and lose all benefits every summer (my best friend is a teacher and so is his brother), but at the same time it seems tons of schools now prefer (or are only able to find positions for) short contracts, more subs and temporary positions etc.

Especially if its not in a well funded area.

skinfaxi 12 hours ago | parent [-]

The cost to municipalities/towns for medical insurance has skyrocketed which I think is a contributor (not to mention pension obligations for retirees).

jborden13 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think it's attributable to summer break. Didn't ~1,100K teachers quit in Fort Worth, TX due (in part) to a rise in political interference?

chasd00 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> ..rise in political interference?

I haven't heard it phrased like that before hah. The truth is when a school district is bad enough the state comes in and takes it over to try and get things back on their feet. Fort Worth is just embarrassed because FWISD is so bad the state had to take it over.

My wife is a HS teacher in Richardson and one of her friends was hired as a new principal at one of the FWISD schools. She said the situation is pretty bleak and most teachers should be fired but they likely won't be able to get rid of all the bad ones. That's pretty typical unfortunately in public education.

https://www.fwisd.org/about/tea

/the same thing happened to a school district in Houston

dominotw 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

no they didnt

jborden13 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This article seems to disagree

https://fortworthreport.org/2026/08/06/record-teacher-turnov...

dominotw 12 hours ago | parent [-]

no it doesnt

jborden13 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

you're still wrong

> Superintendent Peter Licata acknowledged that the takeover and instructional changes played a role in some educators’ decisions to leave the district.

> ...But he said he believes employees watched the transformation of Houston ISD under state control and grew wary as Fort Worth introduced standardized lessons and reorganized schools and departments.

dominotw 11 hours ago | parent [-]

sure thats 'political interference' .

jborden13 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Please give us your definition of the TEA takeover then.

dominotw 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

they obviously know that