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lostaccount 13 hours ago

This is basically office space but for the modern era. Peter found happiness in construction work, but when something physical like that is your job… I don’t know. A lot of those guys have back pain, inflexible schedules, working in extreme weather, and the pay isn’t even that good. Is tech so bad? Or is the world of work broken?

pc86 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> A lot of those guys have back pain, inflexible schedules, working in extreme weather,

And a lot of them don't?

A lot of people who work on a computer all day also have back pain and inflexible schedules. Hell, I'm sure a lot of knowledge workers in other countries work in places with no air conditioning, for example - not exactly "extreme" but not climate-controlled, either.

jonahrd 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There are definitely downsides to office work, but this post really implies to me that you don't actually personally know anyone who works in the trades. The amount of body pain/damage, extreme conditions, and ridiculous scheduling (as in, last minute decisions that you must be on site at 5:30am the next day, not as in overall hours) are pretty much incomparable to tech work.

pc86 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I didn't say they were comparable. But there is a common refrain that every single person who works in the trades has their body basically destroyed by the time they're 40, which isn't remotely true, and that nobody who works in an office (or a number that is essentially a rounding error) has any physical effects directly caused by that, which also isn't remotely true.

phainopepla2 6 hours ago | parent [-]

That's not a common refrain, that's you interpreting reasonable statements in the most extreme possible way.

thatwasdumb 2 hours ago | parent [-]

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hiAndrewQuinn 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not for nothing that de facto founder of the Singaporean state Lee Kuan Yew wooed top men and women into working government jobs by ensuring the government buildings had A/C. I would far prefer an inflexible air conditioned 9 to 5 than a flexible perpetual sauna.

dec0dedab0de 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Physical labor is bad for the knees, but good for the soul.

nancyminusone 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Office workers get chronic conditions from sitting around all day too. Yet vary few jobs provide any such balance.

dec0dedab0de 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The only tech job that had that balance was a network engineer at the headquaters of a global company in a skyscraper with 3 offices and a datacenter in walking distance. Most of the time I was sitting around writing code or configs, but at least once a week I would have to walk to a different floor or building to wire up a switch or rack a new DNS server or whatever. That bit of required physical activity and interaction with others was always a highlight.

KellyCriterion 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Actually the only job without all those problems (err,any problems?) is to b a fitness instructor or personal trainer; not on an extreme level,8h a day, but let say you have 2 clients or maybe 3 clients a day, this would be enough movement / workout to never ever run into these problems, I guess?