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m4ck_ an hour ago

>It’s good to reduce dependence on foreign supply chains

The fact that we're still basically entirely reliant on the middle east and other foreign producers for our domestic fuel supply suggests this isn't really that big of a deal. Even in the middle of a war that is generating massive profits for the oil industry, no one is suggesting they should add refinery capacity or convert existing ones to use domestic oil.

This move is about the president's personal vendetta against offshore wind and satisfying his financial backers in the fossil fuel industry.

firesteelrain an hour ago | parent [-]

I disagree.

The US is the largest producer of oil and natural gas in the world. We’re also a net energy exporter.

We import some crude because our refineries are set up for it. That’s a long way from being “entirely reliant” on foreign fuel.

m4ck_ 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

We are indeed the largest producer of oil and natural gas. In this case, "some" is like 70%. Maybe that's not "entirely reliant", but it's far from independence. If other countries stopped selling us oil, our car-centric society would be FUBAR for some time.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-produc...

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_d_nus_Z00_mbblp...

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_exp_dc_NUS-Z00_mbblpd_...

firesteelrain 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

70% figure isn’t dependence on foreign oil for 70% of our consumption. The US both imports and exports huge amounts of petroleum.

And most US crude imports come from Canada, not the Middle East.

If the Middle East suddenly stopped it would cause a disruption but that’s very different than saying the US is reliant on the Middle East.