| ▲ | juntoalaluna 3 hours ago |
| Insane. Over the last year, wind - mostly offshore - has generated more than 35% of electricity here. Gas is down to 27%. It's really, really good. And it looks cool. |
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| ▲ | _joel 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Not great for the wildlife during drilling but it's better than the carbon rich alternatives. |
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| ▲ | dschu 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Global warming is also killing wildlife. And by many magnitudes more than drilling some holes for offshore wind parks. | | |
| ▲ | _joel 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Literally what I said, but thanks for playing. | | |
| ▲ | virgildotcodes 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Is the game you're playing "see if I can be subtle enough to get away with undermining renewables through misleading statements on social media without people calling me out on it"? If so I think you're down 1 - 0 so far in this thread. Best of luck on the next round though, really cool and awesome game! | | |
| ▲ | constantius 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I think it was your reading that is faulty, the commenter wasn't subtle and didn't undermine anything. Can you stop playing the game of owning people with teenager level zingers based on you yourself being too thick? | |
| ▲ | carlosjobim 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Thank you comrade for your alert senses! You correctly identified that anybody who pretends to be a "moderate" voice or utters any kind of even light criticism towards the Party program is always a detractor or enemy spy which is trying to sabotage and undermine our internal cohesion. The individual has promptly been dealt with and put in a reeducation camp. I will talk to your local commissar so that your brave act of psychological self defence in this message board is rewarded with +50 extra social credits. | |
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| ▲ | _joel 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Get a grip, where did I undermine renewables, I said it was better than the carbon rich alternative. I see you're playing the, "let's be misleading and pretend the OP was saying something they weren't". Fun game, not that productive though. |
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| ▲ | bfmalky 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You don't seem to understand the meeting of the word 'literally'. | | |
| ▲ | _joel 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | You don't seem to be able to read the "better than carbon rich alternatives" that literally in what I originally wrote. |
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| ▲ | yxhuvud 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It is really great for the wildlife after the drilling is done though, as the windmills tend to make the area safer against fishermen. | |
| ▲ | TeMPOraL 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Nothing is great for wildlife, including leaving it alone and undisturbed, because nature doesn't care if animals are happy, or even if they exist. | | |
| ▲ | josh-wrale 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I’m thinking you mean that nature does not possess the ability to care at all. | | |
| ▲ | neuronic an hour ago | parent [-] | | Nature does have the ability to care unless you postulate that humans aren’t part of nature. |
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| ▲ | neuronic an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | No energy source producing the required amounts to run civilization will be non-disruptive to wildlife and the environment. But perfect is the enemy of good. Renewable energy sources heavily reduce this factor, make countries more independent from imports (other countries) and slow down the catastrophic effects of increased atmospheric energy due to greenhouse effect of carbon-based energy sources. Conservatives should be the top number one supporters of renewable energy because of more independence from other governments and better conservation of the environment. But alas, the only thing they like to preserve is their personal greed. |
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| ▲ | budsniffer952 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What's insane is that one person will cite something this in one place, but the rest of the people in the thread say "why aren't we building wind and solar????" We are building lots. Of everything. |
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| ▲ | estearum 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | But... you're commenting on an article in which we are stopping the "we are building" part? | | |
| ▲ | sbarre 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Who is "we" here? This is about one company bending the knee, not an entire industry or population. | | |
| ▲ | estearum 23 minutes ago | parent [-] | | "We" is referring to the US federal government, elected by the US population, and which has (and is using) massive levers to kneecap development of renewable energy sources. Some internet commentators may wish to unhelpfully point out that no matter the US federal efforts, renewable development will always be above literal zero, and so "we haven't stopped." But it's not a very useful contribution to the conversation. https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/stalled-us-permits-... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-26/us-renewa... There are dozens of similar articles about dozens of different projects and mechanisms used to stall those projects. Yes, I concede the level will almost certainly remain above zero and so "we haven't stopped." Good-faith adults know what the conversation is about and can either engage in it or opt out of it instead of engaging in excessive pedantry. |
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| ▲ | gman83 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is the exact reason it's happening. Offshore wind is cheaper than gas /kWh and would therefore kill Trump's fossil fuel donor's profits. So kill offshore wind and the grid is forced to go to more expensive fossil fuel sources, which increased the grid price and means extra profits go to those companies. All this raises energy prices. |
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| ▲ | lenkite 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Utterly Insane. I mean the saying "Truth is stranger than fiction" is proven true by this US administration again, again and again. If you put this as a plot point in a novel, you would get a 1-star rating with readers complaining about lack of realism. |
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| ▲ | iammjm 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | People were for years joking about us approaching Idiocracy but I think this reality is already dumber than that in some regards. Trump & co really turbocharged the idiotification | | |
| ▲ | glaslong 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In Idiocracy, President Camacho recognizes that someone has scientific skills and expertise* he doesn't and puts them in charge to help his people.
* even if it's just "feed plants water, not Gatorade." From that angle, Idiocracy is notably BETTER than our current situation. | |
| ▲ | ZeroGravitas 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's a cliche now to say we're past that as in Idiocracy they listened to the smartest person to solve their problem. We're now onto Captain Planet baddies. Ridiculously childish cartoon carictatures of greed and evil are now in charge | | |
| ▲ | b3lvedere an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I wonder if the power of heart will save us then. | |
| ▲ | CuriouslyC an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | They even look like Captain Planet baddies. Trump with his orange skin, purple sores and ridiculous hair, RFK jr. walking around barefoot looking like a scrotum on steroids, Pete Kegsbreath answering the question "What if a mob boss fucked a frat bro", etc. |
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| ▲ | mrits 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The LNG plant is being built in Texas which are covered with turbines, and they absolutely do not look cool. |
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| ▲ | InsideOutSanta 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There's a reason so many racing games put them on their maps. They look dope. | |
| ▲ | defrost 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Chevron’s Gorgon project LNG plants on Barrow Island also absolutely do not look cool. | |
| ▲ | DFHippie 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Texas which are covered with turbines Is "Texas" the plural of "Texa"? | | | |
| ▲ | thatwasunusual 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Texas which are covered with turbines, and they absolutely do not look cool. Compared to coal plants, which are _extremely_ cool-looking. /s | | |
| ▲ | mrits an hour ago | parent [-] | | I've never seen one here, which makes sense because we don't use much coal. I suppose if they were 200m high and scattered across half the state I'd have a similar opinion. | | |
| ▲ | ZeroGravitas 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Texas burns more coal than any other state and has hundreds of premature deaths a year caused by its coal plants. |
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| ▲ | layer8 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | So they look hot? |
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| ▲ | s_dev 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| What's more mental you talk to any Germans about deprecating their Nuclear power stations they will bang on about their plan for renewables and then you read these sorts of headlines. What the hell is happening over there? Why can't they get 'energy' despite being a scientifically literate nation. France has a far superior energy policy so it's not like you even have to travel beyond a few miles to see a wildly different price for electricity. At this rate French electricity will be half the price in a few years compared to German electricity. Germany is making mistake after mistake on energy. From Russian dependence to Nuclear scepticism to now accepting money to not build renewables. |
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| ▲ | myrmidon an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Germany is already way ahead of the US in switching away from fossil electricity (also ahead of China). Sure, keeping the entire nuclear fleet from ~2000 would have maybe helped, but would have required very costly (economically and politically!) investments over the last few decades, and those basically went into renewables instead which turned out fine. See:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/electricity-prod-source-s... | | |
| ▲ | throwaway473825 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I definitely wouldn't say that it turned out fine. The push against nuclear transcended into a larger push against electricity, making Germany a laggard in electrification. The car sector certainly isn't doing fine. It's also funny how air conditioning powered by electricity is discouraged, while air conditioning in ICE cars or gas heating in buildings are at the very least tolerated. It's crazy if you think about it. | |
| ▲ | 1234letshaveatw an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Is all of their energy consumption met by domestic production? | | |
| ▲ | legulere 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | No, Germany imports massive amounts of fossil fuels. Renewables and electrification help reduce that. Electricity-wise Germany is a net exporter again | |
| ▲ | Kelteseth an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes |
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| ▲ | mcintyre1994 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is about a German company that was going to make a renewable project in the US. Germany itself has a huge offshore wind industry, which is probably how they have companies that planned to do the same in the US. | |
| ▲ | smmeis an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | There is no french or german electricity price. Its a common market. Price difference is only different taxation | | |
| ▲ | legulere 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | There are indeed bidding zones in Europe. France is one bidding zone and Germany and Luxembourg is another one. Market prices are indeed pretty comparable. Taxation and cost for the net are very different with a higher price for the connection in France and a higher price per kWh in Germany. In the end for a normal use of electricity the prices are very comparable. |
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