| ▲ | alephnerd an hour ago | ||||||||||||||||
Unions don't help with that as can be seen with Volkswagen or much of Detroit. Or, from an IP-driven industry perspective, the offshoring of Hollywood following the SAG and WGA strikes in the early 2020s. If IATSE couldn't stop VFX from being offshored back in the 2000s and 2010s, then tech unions wouldn't be able to either. Edit: can't reply > Without film industry unions, might the offshoring have been undertaken even earlier? Not really. VFX was already largely offshored by the early 2010s despite only starting as an industry in the 1990s. > Yeah but this is a limited perspective. If the union was truly international (like they _used_ to be) VFX workers could push for high wages wherever they worked. VFX workers in most countries are not unionized either, and much of the industry has now shifted to ASEAN, China, and India where there is no real unionization to begin with. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | DiscourseFan 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Yeah but this is a limited perspective. If the union was truly international (like they _used_ to be) VFX workers could push for high wages wherever they worked. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Melatonic 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
VFX workers did try to unionize along with software engineers. Major tech companies colluded illegally and were caught doing this. This was way before the AI boom | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Apocryphon 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Without film industry unions, might the offshoring have been undertaken even earlier? | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | mikojan 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Volkswagen is perhaps the greatest counter-example. The union in Germany converted every layoff initiative in whole or in part (more often in whole) into partial retirements, backfill stops, reduced working hours, compensation freezes. | |||||||||||||||||
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