I believe it. It's extremely good at troubleshooting. I gave Qwen and Kimi K3 the same annoying, complicated, intermittent bug to track down. Kimi did a bit better in understanding the existing code, but Qwen built some diagnostic tools and did an excellent statistical analysis on the log data. Qwen got way closer to the truth.

I'm very much looking forward to their forthcoming smaller model Qwen 3.8 releases. A version that can easily run locally would be great.

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thefourthchime an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Did you also try Opus 5 and 5.6 Sol?

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comboy an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

How CLI are you guys using for qwen and kimi?

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eli an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I use https://pi.dev/ which works fine out of the box but is fairly minimal and intended to be customized. There are many extensions.

OpenCode or oh-my-pi might make more sense if you just want a batteries-included agent. You can also make Claude Code work with other models without too much work, but I think that's asking for headaches.

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Gooblebrai 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Is there any subscription of any kind for Qwen? Or via Pi.dev needs to be used with API credits?

	▲	iAMkenough 33 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		My first web search turned up this as the top result https://www.alibabacloud.com/help/en/model-studio/coding-pla...

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trey-jones an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I used claude with GLM and it's easy to set up, just hard to find the documentation. No headaches really, unless you want to use it against multiple different APIs.

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g58892881 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]