| ▲ | Agentlien 2 hours ago | |||||||
On a tangent, I was a bit confused by the everyday examples given in this article. "We're often faced with similar trade-offs. You want a meal that's both cheap and delicious? A job that's both well-paid, easy, and fulfilling?" I really don't feel like "easy" is a dimension I wish to optimize for in a job. It almost feels opposite to what I've actually optimized for - since for me a fulfilling job usually means full of deep technical challenges. I want a job without unnecessary friction, without interpersonal drama, even one that's low stress. But definitely not easy. | ||||||||
| ▲ | wiether an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
That's part of how I see an "easy" job. Where I can focus on working on the actual tasks at hand.Doesn't matter if the actual job is filling glasses of water or building rockets; as long as I can focus on it for 100% of my working hours, I'd see it as an "easy" job. | ||||||||
| ▲ | blanched an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
I get what you’re saying, but I wouldn’t say easy is the opposite of challenging. As a quick example, I would surely find a day job of manual labor harder and significantly less enjoyable than a day job of software engineering challenges. (And please note that I do not mean to imply that there are no challenges in manual labor or that software engineering is more important.) | ||||||||
| ▲ | ytpete 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Maybe instead of "easy" what they really meant that axis to convey is something more like "low stress" or "not frustrating" | ||||||||
| ▲ | StilesCrisis an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
It sounds like you're saying "easy" and "fulfilling" cannot coexist, and obviously they are in tension, but a Pareto frontier still exists there. | ||||||||
| ▲ | Georgelemental an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Well then, you would prioritize "fulfilling" in your utility function. Others might make a different choice; e.g. a single parent who needs to save time and energy for family might prefer "easy" at the cost of boring drudgery | ||||||||
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| ▲ | jimbokun an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
They’re just hypothetical examples, not meant to apply to everyone. | ||||||||
| ▲ | elwell an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Felt like covert advertisements. | ||||||||
| ▲ | jpfromlondon 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
what you choose for the dimensions is arbitrary, they only chosen thusly to prove the point. I don't think I've ever seen an example of pareto that wasn't pseudo scientific drivel. | ||||||||