| ▲ | markstos a day ago |
| Animal agriculture is a key driver of climate change: https://sentientmedia.org/how-does-livestock-affect-climate-... Along with the high price, that's one more reason to not buy it. |
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| ▲ | dieselgate a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| In a recent Ezra Klein podcast about data center backlash he mentions being vegetarian and says something along the lines of "being anti data center because of water consumption is hypocritical if people eat meat" |
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| ▲ | tpmoney a day ago | parent [-] | | Eh, that's pretty specious reasoning. If I start a business selling space water cannons that anyone can use to spray water at the ISS as it flies by. If these cannons are consuming whole farms worth of water in use and just blasting it out into space, you can still be mad at the water waste because you think that water could be put to better uses like growing animals for hot dogs and chicken nuggets, and not fleeting entertainment for people to have interplanetary water fights. | | |
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| ▲ | onlyrealcuzzo a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Beef is particularly egregious. Poultry and even pork are about an order of magnitude more efficient. It's interesting how long the market was wildly subsidized to hide the true cost of beef. |
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| ▲ | allcentury a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There’s research now that high density rotational grazing does the opposite. |
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| ▲ | dqv a day ago | parent | next [-] | | You have to cut out feedlot finishing to get those benefits on a macro scale, which would drastically reduce beef output. It's the same problem organic has, but maybe even worse since 99%? of cows are feedlot-finished. Which isn't really a negative to me, but I think people should be honest about what is actually necessary to get the benefits of this form of beef production. | |
| ▲ | markstos a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Link? |
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| ▲ | vitaflo a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| A person eating one single hamburger uses more water than an entire year of LLM use for the same person. Yet we are very concerned about water use in data centers, but nobody cares about McDonalds. |
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| ▲ | ab5tract 21 hours ago | parent [-] | | Respectfully, I would like to see a source or at least the math for that. | | |
| ▲ | vladsanchez 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | Here it is: [The water footprint of a single hamburger is *significantly higher than* that of using a large language model (LLM) for a year. For example, the water used for one hamburger is primarily due to the irrigation of cattle feed crops, while data centers like xAI's Colossus 2 consume much less water overall.](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=A+person+eating+one+single+hamburg...) States that it's significantly higher but the breakdown shows a 660gal vs 1000gal (Single Burger vs 1yr LLM Usage) water usage... Item Water Footprint (Gallons) Single Hamburger Approximately 660 gallons Year of LLM Usage Approximately 1,000 gallons Results also contain an important disclaimer: "Auto-generated based on listed sources. May contain inaccuracies." You be the judge ;) |
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| ▲ | numbers_guy a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| All economic activity is a key driver to climate change. Why single out one thing? You're clearly imposing a self-serving moral judgement on other people. |
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| ▲ | shlant a day ago | parent [-] | | > All economic activity is a key driver to climate change what a pointless thought-terminating cliché > You're clearly imposing a self-serving moral judgement on other people. Just because you are the wrong side of morality does not mean they are incorrect |
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| ▲ | Noaidi a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | markstos a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Where I can learn more about the genetic need of people of Sámi heritage to eat animal food? When I tried to search for the details, I found only that it was a traditionally meat heavy diet. | | |
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