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justonenote 4 hours ago

If you are technical and want root its very easy to patch a build of GrapheneOS to include whatever mechanism you want. You can even automate this to continue to receive updates.

I think the decision of GrapheneOS to maintain the attestation features and not providing user root is what gives it a fighting chance of being accepted as legitimate 3rd choice. See: Revolut and others adding GrapheneOS keys and trusting their attestation

Like or not, for most users, having root access is a liability, especially with more and more important things being held on phones . Someone downloading a photo editing app and then having a rootkit installed in the background that waits to empty their bank account is not a workable situation.

yjftsjthsd-h 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Someone downloading a photo editing app and then having a rootkit installed in the background that waits to empty their bank account is not a workable situation.

Yes, that would be absurd. Thankfully, that isn't how root access has worked in a very very long time if ever. If photo editing app requests root access... you click deny and uninstall it.

actionfromafar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Some percentage will click Allow.

yjftsjthsd-h 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, that's Google's excuse for banning side loading. It's a terrible reason.

spogbiper an hour ago | parent [-]

They aren't banning it. They are introducing a one time 24 hour waiting period. Not ideal, but not banning.

armadyl 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because so-called “trusted” apps that you do give root to have no chance of getting compromised, right?

yjftsjthsd-h 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Pretty low, honestly, but being careful about that is why I tend to make it ask every single time.

gruez 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>If you are technical and want root its very easy to patch a build of GrapheneOS to include whatever mechanism you want. You can even automate this to continue to receive updates.

You don't even need to patch it, AFAIK. You can just install magisk, which is how you're supposed to get root on LineageOS as well.

ysnp an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Just to note Revolut are quite famously anti-security and GrapheneOS have had to work around attempts to ban it on a few occasions. You may have meant the swiss finance app Yuh or something else.