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aucisson_masque 5 hours ago

Aosp without Google play services is dead. You need it more and more to run apps.

dude741 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have run graphene OS on my phone for 3+ years and I don't use Google Play or Google Play Services. You use F-Droid to install Aurora Store and anonymously download real apps. I can use my bank apps and it's quite functional. My wife even doesn't complain about it. Camera is decent, not as good due to the software being non-proprietary, but decent.

getpokedagain 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is only true of ye olde apps from shitty banks and the like.

gruez 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>You need it more and more to run apps.

Realistically nobody is developing apps for linux phones, so the options are android or no apps at all.

hagbard_c 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Strange, I've been using it for about 15 years on many different devices and it works just fine. Maybe that is related to the fact that I tend to shun closed-source applications whenever possible? The few closed-source apps I do use - Swedish BankID, Deutsche Bahn 'Navigator', Dutch DigiD - also work as intended even though some of them - mostly the Swedish BankID - claim they 'need Google Services to work'. Click away the popup and it works just fine without it so that is clearly not true. On some devices I installed microG to see whether it does what they claim but while this seems to be the case I don't think it is needed for those keeping their devices mostly free from proprietary applications. This is not a hardship, far from it. Nearly all the types of applications I want to use are available as free software which also tends to make them ad-free, spyware-free and generally less of a nuisance than proprietary alternatives.