So is it just that these are people who haven’t personally experienced well-intentioned technology turning into a living nightmare? Watching the optimism and then collapse of Web 2.0 was a formative experience for me. I’m 38. Is this just naivete? What is this?

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baron3dl 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Inevitablism, a fundamentalist belief system that resolves every moral hazard with an appeal to the inevitable. "we can't let someone else do this first"

	▲	goatlover 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Like Edward Teller wanting to develop hydrogen bombs while Oppenheimer was trying to prevent an arms race from starting.
	▲	soco 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		"I will kill you now since you're dying anyway so just hand me all your money"

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codeduck 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's called being insulated from the immediate consequences of their actions and hubris.

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AdamH12113 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

According to her Wikipedia page, she's ~23 and went to Harvard, so A) her life experience is limited, B) most of the experience she does have involves being on a path to elitehood, and C) she probably sees a chance at a life-changing amount of money here.

People like this are the input side of the "oops we built the Torment Nexus" pipeline.

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Aurornis 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Watching the optimism and then collapse of Web 2.0

What collapse of web 2.0?

Technically the website we're on is web 2.0 because we're interacting as users.

I don't think it's naiveté on their part to want to build new things. I think you're just jaded and hyperfocusing on the negatives.

	▲	dag100 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		With some technologies, the negatives are so severe it is difficult to see how they outweigh the positives. Mind-control technology is quite frankly just asking to be abused. It's the ultimate relinquishment of power - you reveal your entire hand to someone else AND let them do what they want with it. I honestly don't understand how some people are so optimistic that they think this technology won't be misused in ways that massively overshadow the good that could be done with them.

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rufasterisco an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I understand where you are coming from. Yet.

Neuralink exists since 10 years, is in clinical trial, has been implanted on a living human being in 2 years ago.

The lack of adults in the room to set rules around moral hazard is hardly her generation's fault.

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kleiba2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To me, this reads as an attempt to raise easy investment money.

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wuschel 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Die Gedanken sind frei..." - can someone guess them? A truly dystopian question.

It is been 10 years ago when I looked through some research in that area. Back then it was the problem to get enough good signal. Has the situation changed radically here for non-invasive electrodes or portable detectors?

I understand that the approach would be to turn weak signal, context, and LLM based signal processing into useful human computer interaction. For everything else, I have the feeling we are still in speculative territory.

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dudefeliciano 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

well she is only 23 so naivete would make sense, although it looks like she held some AI safety roles so...

	▲	symfoniq 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		In the same way that “Anthropic” apparently means misanthropic, we can probably add “AI safety” to the list of newspeak.

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mosura 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think this is actually marginally less evil than Meta Tribe. The whole neuro space is dangerous and while people go on about “AI safety” the world will trend towards this madness.

And this will provoke “well we need to regulate AI then”. No, you need to regulate poking around in people’s brains without asking them before that becomes normal.

	▲	pstuart an hour ago \| parent [-]
		TIL -- dear god that's terrifying. I get that there's likely a lot of valuable and legitimate work that could come out of it, but I wouldn't trust Zuck as far as I could throw him out a window.