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segmondy 8 hours ago

Someone that is innocent is going to get killed soon because flock flagged them incorrectly. I recall reading the auto journalist that got flagged for a stolen car while test driving a car. We have seen how often pull over/arrests can derail when a stupid cop that is aggressive pulls out their weapon first, fires fast and then investigates last. An innocent person that reacts wrongly is eventually going to make the news. :-(

ericcholis 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.jalopnik.com/2219072/auto-journalist-harassed-by...

Link for the curious

GoofGarage 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Link straight from the source (the actual journalist)

https://www.thedrive.com/news/how-flock-cameras-wrongly-trac...

JK-Swizzle 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://abcnews.com/US/man-speaks-after-police-release-9-tra... He was attacked by a police dog after a flock camera misread his license plate. He was then charged for "obstruction", which was dropped 4 months later.

MSFT_Edging 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Police dogs are another insane thing we allow.

You can be mauled by a police dog and if you hit the dog, you get an assault on a police officer charge. It's bad enough a cop can permanently disable you if you can't follow 3 conflicting orders being yelled, but they can also send an animal who literally doesn't know better.

kyleee 4 hours ago | parent [-]

And the absurdity of a dog sniffing around the car for contraband. Crazy that’s allowed and taken seriously by the justice system

BobaFloutist 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Well the courts said they need probable cause for a search, so they needed an on-demand probable cause generator, or else they wouldn't be able to do pretextual searches on "randomly" stopped minorities anymore, which would be a violation of they(the police)'re civil rights.

dgellow 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That might already have happened for all we know

skeeter2020 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Woman with SUV filled with minors pulled out by cops and handcuffed on the ground in Colorado based on flock ID'ing the license plate of stolen... motorcycle with same number (but from a different state). You can't make this shit up.

https://www.kxlf.com/news/america-in-crisis/aurora-police-de...

infinite_spin 4 hours ago | parent [-]

glad you posted this.

> "Why are you now placing these children on the ground face into the concrete? It's hot! In front of all of us? Screaming at them. They are telling you they are hurt," witness Jenni Wurtz said.

I cannot believe LE will use this technology within ethical bounds, since they are willing to force a very young child onto the asphalt of a hot parking lot, who cannot possibly have posed a risk to their safety.

saalweachter 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean, even people who are guilty of many crimes shouldn't be summarily executed in the street. Stealing a television or driving a tractor trailer of illegal weed from coast to coast isn't a death sentence even after a jury trial & conviction, so we shouldn't really be all that sanguine about guilty people being killed either.

sylos 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They have already destroyed at least one life. There was that woman arrest

xnx 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Flock doesn't kill people. Cops do.

infinite_spin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The systems we have in place kill people. Aiming to blame just one point of failure, in a complex network of systems, is a failure itself

SoftTalker 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> We have seen how often pull over/arrests can derail when a stupid cop that is aggressive pulls out their weapon first

I'll bite. I'm sure it has happened. But how often?