| ▲ | vovavili an hour ago |
| That's the male equivalent of women asking why men care about boobs and body count. The answer is "evolved intuition", like it or not. |
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| ▲ | brettgriffin an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| I would liken it more to the male equivalent of facial beauty or weight: most men have a general level of facial beauty and weight they expect in a partner. And if not met, there is really nothing else that can help bind the attraction. For women, that is height. But yes, it is "evolved intuition." |
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| ▲ | Forgeties79 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You’re going to need some serious sources to back that up man because that flies in the face of our understanding of socially constructed beauty/physical/etc. standards. What we consider “attractive” has historically been incredibly varied and heavily determined by society, class, etc. |
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| ▲ | globular-toast an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Possibly, but not necessarily. Your argument is that it's just more attractive. That might be true. That would also mean there's an underlying reason for females finding this attractive. This could be due to taller males being able to protect their offspring from other males, hence more of us are descended from taller males and females that found taller males attractive. But being taller could also give other advantages like perceived or actual dominance over other males which is, in itself, an attractive quality. |
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| ▲ | hackyhacky an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > The answer is "evolved intuition", like it or not. Maybe. A lot of what we assume are innate sexual preferences are actually determined socially. No one was talking about "body count" (at least not publicly) ten years ago. These days, a full-figure on a woman is considered attractive, but in the 1990s, being skinny was in vogue. Insofar as an attractive partner is a status symbol, the definition of "attractive" changes with fashion. |
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| ▲ | vovavili an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | >These days, a full-figure on a woman is considered attractive, but in the 1990s, being skinny was in vogue. This is usually based on a selective and wishful interpretation of historical data. The best argument I've found is here - https://www.jsanilac.com/dispelling-beauty-lies/ | | |
| ▲ | hackyhacky an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I was alive in the 1990s. "Heroic chic" was definitely a thing. I'm also alive now. It's not hard to find big butts being idolized. Your linked article is not very scientific. For example, it cites porn-store purchasing preference as evidence of actual male taste in partner selection. | | |
| ▲ | vovavili 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >Your linked article is not very scientific. That's the whole point. Due to the touchiness of the subject matter, these kinds of topics would be quite difficult to discuss frankly in a politicized institution guarded by a peer review process. |
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| ▲ | armenarmen an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Evil Vizier’s work on the topic is fascinating |
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| ▲ | rhrhfjfjjr44 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >No one was talking about "body count" (at least not publicly) ten years ago. Why do you think that is? Our great grandfathers were practically guaranteed to be marrying virgins, while today's young men seem to consider themselves lucky if their girl is still in single figures. Things have changed, people are talking about it. | | |
| ▲ | quickthrowman 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Our great grandfathers were practically guaranteed to be marrying virgins Lol yeah, and fetishes were invented in the 1950s. Very few people in history made it to marriage as virgins. |
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| ▲ | Lio 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > No one was talking about "body count" (at least not publicly) ten years ago. People have been talking about virginity and monogamy for 1000s of years. Men want to know that the children they raise are their own. It might have blipped a bit since the invention of the pill but women cuckolding their partners has been frowned upon world wide for a very long time. Sex before monogamous marriage has historically been a big thing. There's even songs, sagas and religious books that make virtue of it. | |
| ▲ | perpetuallunch 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Women, the world over, are, on average, shorter than men. Therefore women will, on average, select mates who are taller than them. Cultural relativism has fallen out of fashion, universal truths are back in. | |
| ▲ | red-iron-pine 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | body count was definitely a topic in the early 2000s |
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