yes, and also that if someone is buying stuff new, it should be exclusively zwave800 stuff. example hardware on the "hub" end would be:

https://www.home-assistant.io/connect/zwa-2/

https://www.getzooz.com/zooz-zst39-z-wave-long-range-usb-sti...

the zooz is this internally: https://www.silabs.com/wireless/z-wave/800-series-modem-soc/...

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mrheosuper 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

another protocol/wireless stack? Why can't we settle down to something that is at least "good enough"?

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margalabargala 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Because zwave is proprietary. There's money to be made here! Can you imagine the lost profit potential if people standardize on an open protocol like ZigBee?

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SEJeff an hour ago | parent [-]

It is so proprietary in fact all of the spec is on github:

https://github.com/zwave-js/specs

	▲	schubidubiduba an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Even with a spec on github, a protocol can still be proprietary, e.g. if companies have to pay to use it legally in products

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cryptoegorophy 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you really need long antenna? I noticed zwave can act as a mesh.

	▲	SuperMouse 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Most likely it's not a super robust transmission mode like LoRa (that works down to -145dBm). Having a well designed antenna with a good pattern help a lot then.