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Forge36 6 hours ago

Having switched to zigbee devices recently I regret trying to start with WiFi. While I'm not sure how it looks under the hood, adding devices with home assistant was miles easier.

baby_souffle 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've helped lots of people with home automation Network build outs l; the biggest factor is the RF environment.

If you're fortunate enough to not be battery constrained at most endpoints and can put a high quality Wi-Fi access point in an optimal location than Wi-Fi is incredibly reliable.

The tooling for inspecting all layers of a Wi-Fi network is infinitely more accessible and mature and that certainly helps; I can't go to My local big box store and get a USB thread dongle for 20 bucks that will just work on a Lennox computer and integrate nicely with Wireshark out of the box...

Dan_- 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, you have to order it from Mouser for $16 instead.

Fixed link: https://www.mouser.com/en/ProductDetail/Nordic-Semiconductor...

And there’s a little configuration: https://wiki.makerdiary.com/nrf52840-mdk-usb-dongle/guides/n...

hiitsmyaccount 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Dead product link

Dan_- 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Sorry I thought I was removing tracking bits from the URL. It’s fixed now.

hiitsmyaccount 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have a Unifi home network with two Wifi 7 access points and gigabit ethernet. For home automation, I went with ZWave and do not regret it at all. It's been rock solid and I've never felt the need to get a dongle to debug the traffic. I don't want to be working through all of the WiFi baggage with my home automation devices. I recently introduced some Zigbee bulbs (hue and cheapos from Amazon) and they've been mostly "fine", albeit with lower range.

Gigachad 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Thread is fairly similar to Zigbee, just standardized and doesn't require brand specific hubs. You can actually control thread devices direct from an iphone with no hub at all.

Wifi for anything but cameras is a mistake, it only exists for maximum compatibility since everyone has wifi already.

esseph 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Wifi for cameras is arguably also a mistake

nomel 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Cameras that require internet to connect to are a mistake, but cameras that use Wifi for local link are fine (wifi is perfect for this). And, having some way to connect remotely is a requirement, for most everyone.

wao0uuno an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Security system that can be jammed is a terrible idea. Cameras should be wired. Ideally on separate network and with battery backup.

rob-olmos 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I took their point to be about wifi being jammable

fragmede 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah first thing burglars are gonna do is jam your wifi camera so you don't have any video of them. Run cat-5 and get a PoE camera.

kps 4 hours ago | parent [-]

And be sure your outdoor cameras are on an isolated VLAN so people can't just plug in to your home network.

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zer00eyz 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Wifi for anything but cameras

Buttons (key presses, remotes - think rapid input), Knobs, sliders, Pixel LED' strips, some MM wave sensors, ir/radio transmitters, really need wifi.

There is products where you will want a bluetooth proxy, plenty of kitchen/grill thermometers and scales for kitchen and bathroom are great examples.

Where range is an issue LoRa is a thing that has plenty of devices and is easy to DIY.

unsnap_biceps 4 hours ago | parent [-]

My matter over thread devices (inovelli) for light switches work faster and better then my old wifi devices (cync)