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sillysaurusx 2 hours ago

(I'm not a part of GA.)

I've known gwern for the better part of a decade. Working with him has been great. We've done quite a few projects together, including being the first ones to demonstrate that GPT-2 could play chess (or rather, can be used for actual useful work instead of just being an autocomplete).

He's a great person. I've wanted to do a writeup on it for some time, but what surprised me the most is his humanity. He genuinely cares about the implications of his work. But beyond work, he also cares about the people around him, and it shows.

Just wanted to put in a good word in case someone here was on the fence about applying.

As for GA itself, I think it's an ambitious idea worth pursuing. Imagine an LLM which actually sounded like you, and to an extent, thought like you. How much would you pay to have access to a smarter version of yourself? So the idea is solid, and early results seem promising from the samples I've looked at.

They're also taking personal info very seriously. Obviously, I can't make any promises of what they will or won't do. But they've spent some time studying questions like "What if someone adversarial has access to my GA? Could they get my bank account info?" and came up with a technical solution that I really like.

symfoniq 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I can nod along when I hear and read people talking about the dangers of these technologies and the endgame of their creators; and then suddenly very weird when everyone except me is nodding along that the answer must be similar (but different) technology!

It's as if technologists are stuck in a room of mirrors, unable to imagine a world in which "solutions" don't ultimately just continue to feed technology's increasingly anti-human takeover of everything.

FeteCommuniste 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

To a man with a hammer...

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jodrellblank an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> "How much would you pay to have access to a smarter version of yourself?"

How much would I pay to rent my fucking self from a landlord? No, bodylord? Mindlord? Poe's Law.

But looking at the post, they argue that big AI labs have an incentive problem which stops them from personalising, but Guardian Angel will make agents which are "Genuinely yours". In what sense is it genuinely mine if someone else owns it and rents it to me? And how does this fix any incentive problem, they're incentivised to better train wealthier people's AIs, and incentivised to keep dropping "my" intelligence or memory or and then dangle a booster carrot for a small fee. The more they can make it think like me, the more effectively they can work out how to exploit me, advertise to me, propagandise me, and that will be profitable information to sell to other marketers.

romanhounds an hour ago | parent [-]

great replacement folks are having a field day.

lazyasciiart 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

Maybe. Are LLMs white?

shermantanktop 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"You're absolutely white!"

Being sycophantic to a racist means being as racist as the filters allow.

an0malous 16 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Grok is pretty passionate about white genocide

Chamix 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ha, haha, across hundreds of personal discussions I've been involved with on lesswrong/lighthaven, twitter, Wikipedia talk/editing, SF parties etc I think his most distinguishing feature has always been his abiding and unabashed love for possessing extreme competency whenever satisfying cunningham-esque laws. Though the post-dwarkesh clout certainly tainted things a bit.

fnordpiglet 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Honestly I wouldn’t want myself as my own guardian angel. In fact I think very few people look out for themselves well. I don’t want another version of me around, one is too many already. I’d probably be able to identify a number of people whose chimera I would if I could understand them well enough to understand what to stitch together to what, but everyone I know at some core level is deeply flawed and one of them is enough. Maybe I would want some of them available after death as an AI avatar, and maybe I would like the idea of my own avatar continuing beyond my existence.

But I actually would prefer an entirely synthetically aligned “guardian angel” in the role outlined - definitely not -me- - I struggle to do right by myself as it is and two of me working invariably against my self interest would be a nightmare. A smarter version? Sounds doubly worse.

rotexo 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I had a similar gut feeling. To use some possibly dubious and dated terminology, would a guardian angel also emulate my shadow self, particularly if that self was an important part of my identity? If I usually manage not to let my shadow self act out, but you could always tell it was there, would the same be true for my guardian angel? If all you do is use your guardian angel to write essays, then sure, a relatively low risk tool. But if military commanders are using it to oversee offensive drones (as proposed in the essay)?! Oof.

njarboe an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This is definitely not for people who think there is one to many of themselves.

nkrisc an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Imagine an LLM which actually sounded like you, and to an extent, thought like you. How much would you pay to have access to a smarter version of yourself?

I find the idea dehumanizing and revolting. The notion of then selling it is the spoiled cream on top.

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