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1970-01-01 2 hours ago

This isn't a secfail. Why is pay.cloudflare.com so hard to establish? Why does marketing always get to overpower engineering? I expect Cloudflare services to avoid some sketchy .pay TLD for exactly the reasons this person went through.

nemothekid 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>Why is pay.cloudflare.com so hard to establish?

An engineer who vibes up a marketing site, and attempts to put it on the same origin as *.cloudflare.com now has to jump through 1,000 hoops of security clearance, customer notifications, etc.

> `pay.cloudflare.com` can't be launched because it doesn't have the proper WAF preventing 25 year old Wordpress exploits, please make sure pay.cloudflare.com/wp-admin.php is blocked. I don't care that it's a Zig application.

I remember just doing SOC2 for a startup and it made just spinning up an EC2 instance require several steps of rigamarole just to be "in-compliance". And if anything goes wrong? Well why didn't you follow the 2,000 step process?

I don't envy anyone who has to deal with issues like these.

marcta 21 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Presumably the big scary sysadmins have access to the *.cloudflare.com DNS records, and marketing just needs to push this thing right now and can't wait, so it's easier for them to buy a new domain with a shiny new TLD than wait for pay.cloudflare.com to be authorised.

cloudflare.com/pay probably has a similar chain of approval: if every marketing idea had its own top-level route, it would get pretty crazy with such a big company.