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stickfigure 17 hours ago

Flock threads attract a narrow slice of hotheads on HN, just like anti-social media threads. It's not really possible to say anything definitive about the popularity of Flock in the broad HN community.

rconti 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Flock seems to be pretty unpopular, internet-wide, in bipartisan tech/very online worlds; feels like 90% to me.

Where things start coming into balance a bit more is among the Nextdoor paranoia crowd.

fckgw 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Flock is popular with 1) local police departments and 2) local city councils who don't want to upset the police

It's pretty unpopular with mainly everyone else.

stickfigure 7 hours ago | parent [-]

If you spend time in neighborhood groups like nextdoor and local facebook groups, you find plenty of support for Flock. I'd even go so far as to say a majority.

This doesn't have the scientific rigor of a random sample, but it's enough to convince me that the anti-Flock voices on HN are not representative of the public at large. And might not even be representative of HN.

frm88 an hour ago | parent [-]

John Oliver made his last episode of Last Week Tonight about surverillance with particular focus on Flock and its many abuses. Last I checked it had 1.5m views on Youtube.

Breaking Points had an episode on Flock yesterday featuring a member of the management calling anti-Flock people domestic terrorists. When I watched it on YT it had 80K views.

EDIT: here's a list of 30+ cities that cancelled their contracts with Flock because of above reasons: https://stateofsurveillance.org/news/flock-safety-cancel-wav...

mlrtime an hour ago | parent [-]

John Oliver is also one of the most biased sources of news you could possibly absorb. He's a comedian playing the part of an opinion news reporter. No different than Fox news hosts, which are equally biased towards their viewers preferences for ad money.

I respect John Stewart for moving more towards real politics than playing the "I'm just a comedian" role.