| ▲ | cortesoft 2 hours ago |
| This is a very different problem than actual efficiency when mowing a lawn or vacuuming a rub. Turning takes more work and time, and you miss a part of the 'square' when you are turning (the arc of the curve is not a straight line). In addition, vacuums especially have an area at the edge of the machine that is not cleaned as well, which is why you want a bit of overlap in your lines. Plus, when mowing a lawn, you often want to leave a nice pattern, so you cant just go for pure efficiency. |
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| ▲ | paradox460 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Plus mowing a lawn is meditative Copying another comment I made earlier When I was laid off a couple months ago, the first thing I did was go out and mow my lawn. One hour of simple, clean labor, with clear progress, goals, and solitude. It helped me stay out of a bad mental frame, and when I finished I went inside and sent out a few hundred applications Over the next several weeks, I spent a lot of time that wasn't spent on finding a new job working on my yard. Fixing sprinklers, cleaning up the edges of the grass, turning, peating, and mulching garden beds, and more While this job search period took longer than any of my past ones, and ostensibly should have been more stressful, it wasn't. Is that because I spent most of the downtime working outdoors? Probably, who knows? It was certainly a better use of my time than sitting indoors moping |
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| ▲ | axus 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I always thought this song was about mowing the lawn during tough times, but apparently not: https://genius.com/The-all-american-rejects-move-along-lyric... | |
| ▲ | hbn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm not much of a workaholic, I don't really like going outside or getting my hands dirty... But mowing the lawn is nice. It's like doing a giant coloring page with a big thick marker. The past couple of years I've lived in a place with no lawn to mow and I miss it. | | |
| ▲ | wlesieutre 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Niceness of lawn mowing is very climate dependent. Around 70 degrees I don’t mind it. Different story when it’s 98. Unenjoyable, and my electric motor’s batteries die twice as fast in the heat, so I have to do it two days in a row instead of being able to get it over with. But I don’t hate it quite enough to blow hundreds of dollars on extra batteries or to pay someone else to do it. |
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| ▲ | sealthedeal 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There is something beautiful about getting hands dirty with actual dirt/earth. Its such a REAL feeling. | | |
| ▲ | edoceo an hour ago | parent [-] | | A friend of a friend got sick of tech work. Now she bills out at $70-120/hr doing garden and landscaping work. Not her crew, just her. Solo work on nice houses. Not lawn-mowing, landscaping. Very dirty every day. If I had a job I'd be jealous. | | |
| ▲ | grebc 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I bought a real stinker of place to renovate & of course the yard is completely overgrown. Every wo/man and their dog is telling me to knock it down, have a bobcat to clear the yard and start fresh. I enjoy the work of clearing a yard by hand, and slowly cleaning the place up. |
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| ▲ | leftnode an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Absolutely agree. I could easily afford to hire a lawn crew to cut my lawn, but I enjoy doing it every weekend or two for similar reasons. I have a little under half an acre to mow, but I still enjoy doing it manually with a push mower. Gets me outside and moving, accomplishes something tangible, can catch up on a podcast or two or just get lost in my thoughts, often leads to fixing other odds and ends around the house I've put off. | |
| ▲ | cortesoft an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I would agree with you if I wasn't so allergic to grass. | |
| ▲ | vel0city 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Plus mowing a lawn is meditative Not when its >100F and >30%RH and a bright sun in the sky. | | |
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| ▲ | codingdave 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > you often want to leave a nice pattern Even when it comes to mowing, different people have different goals. I live out in the country, and tall grass means bugs and ticks, so my mowing tries to strike a balance of short grass near the home and the property edges to stop the ticks, medium grass most everything else because we like to let the clover grow, and tall grass, un-mowed for years on some spots, to allow an ecosystem where we still get monarchs and nightly fireflies. Totally understandable if suburban folk have different goals, but either way, 100% agreed that efficiency is a secondary goal at best. |
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| ▲ | gamerdonkey 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is mentioned in the article when discussing a player that found the optimum route: > Sarah also did something that appeared a bit unnatural. Instead of simply continuing straight a few times, she intuitively and preemptively turned in a snake-like pattern. This highlighted a key difference between real-life mowing and our simplified game, an approach that strong mowers exploited. Sarah, an avid gamer, seemed to recognize this strategy immediately. |
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| ▲ | WillAdams an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | The thing is, one needs to consider more than efficiency, but the overall health and appearance of the lawn --- as noted on _Magnum PI_, it is necessary to vary the cutting so that the lawn does not develop a "grain" where it lays unevenly. | |
| ▲ | Lammy an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Sarah, an avid gamer, seemed to recognize this strategy immediately. I have also played a lot of ChuChu Rocket! |
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| ▲ | scottyah 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You should see how optimal the poster's first dates are! Meet at a location with premade bottles of Soylent while they ask 15 questions. Done in 30min. Optimized away the cost and time "wasted" at restaurants or mini-golf type activities. |
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| ▲ | jacobolus an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | It's a cute little optimization puzzle they made for people to solve, with lawn mowing as a graphical hook to make the problem more approachable and fun. Similarly, my kids have a physical logic puzzle where the theme is putting plastic cats into plastic boxes, but it's not supposed to be training for actually optimizing cat packaging. How is this any more or less valid a use of time vs. mini-golf? (The "real" analogous problems are things like optimizing factories or delivery routes, and the way they are solved is by programming a computer to, but this is a toy version.) | |
| ▲ | wildzzz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I just send prospective dates a pre-screening questionaire, my social résumé, and a doordash giftcard. It's really efficient since I don't need to waste my time going on bad dates or even leaving the house. Unfortunately I haven't figured out the best way screen for candidates on the second round because they never return the questionaire. | |
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| ▲ | altairprime 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That’s rather cruel. Optimizing lawn mowing conserves human and machine fuel/battery, especially on large plots or as professionals or in hot climates. Misapplying optimizations to one’s free time is absolutely in line with your stereotype, but that’s much more a widespread defect of judgment in computer engineers than in mowers. | |
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| ▲ | jesseb34r 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I was thinking the same thing. When actually mowing a lawn (or similarly, vacuuming a carpet/rug) I tend to optimize for either long lines or rectangular sections where I can easily mow a straight pattern. |
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| ▲ | butlike an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why not mow in a spiral then hit the 4 corners last? |
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| ▲ | abighamb an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The lines change mowing so much! |
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| ▲ | LocalH 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > and you miss a part of the 'square' when you are turning (the arc of the curve is not a straight line) This can heavily be mitigated through technique. If you walk straight and just turn? Yeah, the corner is missed. If you explicitly come to a stop and do your best to do a full 90-degree turn before moving? The only curve there is going to come from the shape of the blade, and is almost guaranteed to be a tighter curve than just walking and turning without stopping. Yes, it takes longer. But if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right, even if it takes twice as long, no? |
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| ▲ | cortesoft an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > Yes, it takes longer. But if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right, even if it takes twice as long, no? This is debatable, but either way it is the opposite of the purpose of this article, which is about 'efficiency' in mowing. Also, even if you do it very carefully, and walk a perfect 90 degree turn, you are still going to have an arc. You wont mow the whole 'square' like in the game. | |
| ▲ | edoceo an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I do the outside/borders and around the trees first. Then the turning is over the already mowed area. |
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