bigstrat2003 an hour ago

That isn't true. Microsoft has made some genuinely good software over the years.

pishpash 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It really became a problem only with Windows RT attempting to merge mobile OS with desktop. All the non-sensical UX compromises are still from that.

Later they abandoned consumerware after losing the mobile space but that's a different story. Microsoft isn't really a consumer software company any more so there's no point judging it on that basis.

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inigyou an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Like what

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fryanyway_swe 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

As someone else stated earlier, the NT kernel is actually great.

I find Windows 10 and 11 really good once you tweak it a bit and remove some cruft and tweak regedit/GPO settings. Both for modern software. Not to talk about backwards compatibility, Steam games from 2009 run just fine. Windows is also the standard for online games with anti-cheat. Also, for companies, Excel is a must. Yes, still is.

The whole ecosystem of AD+GPO+ Exchange since 2000 is unparalleled, Novell had something like AD but AD won. That continues with Office 365 where it's not just an office package. It is Identity/accounts/SSO (Entra), MDM (Intune), EDR/"antivirus", Storage (OneDrive), Sharepoint (docs + storage), Teams (Slack + Zoom).

You can buy Okta, Zoom, Slack, Gsuite, an EDR, an MDM but at that point you are paying a lot more for your stack...

I understand if you are a smaller company, then Gsuite + Slack and Zoom is a good choice. But go over 100 people and it starts to not make sense.

I also hear developers liking their IDEs, both full VS and VS Code.

/IT admin

	▲	inigyou 4 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		The NT kernel was actually an IBM project, which got divorced from IBM because of contract stuff and Microsoft got to keep a copy. It grew out of VMS which was a heavyweight OS for DEC VAXen, which IBM acquired.

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pishpash 19 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Here's a list of MS software: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_software

You cannot find a single one that was good, or better than whatever was the alternative at the time?

	▲	inigyou 3 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Evidently you can't, or you would have named it