I can buy and own legal copies of movies and music. But I often really can’t with games.

Not staying this to be pendantic or to annoy you, but you really do know that at the bottom line, the same sort of license applies to movies and music that as of games. It is just accepted with movies, music and books that people just 'have' them. The publishers seriously know what a huge outrage there would be when they did the same to those forms of media like they did with games, but they would if they could get away with it.

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inigyou 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They already did though. Sony removed your movies from your PlayStation. And every Blu-Ray player can brick itself if you insert a disk with a player blacklist update.

	▲	ssl-3 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> And every Blu-Ray player can brick itself if you insert a disk with a player blacklist update. That seems to be somewhat of a myth. Discussion here, 37 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48698374

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account42 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A lot of games are not sold with re-sellable licenses at all while almost all movies are.

	▲	b3lvedere 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You can resell a movie (dvd/blu-ray) and music (cd, tape, etc) like you can resell a physical book. But if the license you have actually agrees on that, i don't really know. Back then i had several dvd's that granted watching it in a family environment but did not grant you reselling.

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softwaredoug 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What I really mean is a difficult to revoke license. Not dependent on a server or DRM. I realize I do not actually own copies.

	▲	b3lvedere 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Automation has its drawbacks.

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TacticalCoder 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Not staying this to be pendantic or to annoy you, but you really do know that at the bottom line, the same sort of license applies to movies and music that as of games.

You can not only buy music on physical medium (CDs or vinyls) but you can also buy, legally, DRM-free lossless music.

And once you own that music, your right to listen to it (privately) cannot be removed from you.

And for, say, a vinyl or a CD, both in the US and in the EU, your right, for example, to sell that CD at a garage sale cannot be removed from you.

And just as I can, today, boot a Commodore 64 from the 80s, I'll still be able, in 40 years, to boot a Raspberry Pi and play my music files from it. And play my CDs if I've still got a reader.

P.S: FWIW I rip my audio CDs to lossless files, in a bit-perfect way (which is automatically cross-checked with checksums of people who made the same rips, so we all know our rips are bit-perfect).

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ssl-3 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Eh?

I can still go to the store and buy some music on physical media, and (if history is any indicator) I can still play it forever until it or my playback equipment wears out.

As a practical matter: You do know that when I spin up an album at home, I simply do not care what limitations any licensing agreements may or may not apply, right? I'm going to play it anyway, and it will work when I play it -- free from outside influence.

	▲	b3lvedere 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I read you and i agree.