| ▲ | surgical_fire 6 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||
Definitions of "lose" have been updated by firesteelrain to exclude retreating after failing to achieve anything. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | firesteelrain 6 hours ago | parent [-] | ||||||||||||||||
The nation-building project ultimately failed. That is not the same as achieving nothing, nor is a political withdrawal the same thing as being militarily defeated. | |||||||||||||||||
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