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Markoff 4 hours ago

it is hidden behind paywall, here no paywall and in English

https://www.electrive.com/2026/08/04/denmark-evs-account-for...

also it should be noted that Denmark has extremely high car registration taxes, so for instance 40K EUR worth ICE car cost after registration 73.5K EUR, while 40K EUR BEV cost after registration 40K EUR, that's really tough choice to make - either you pay 73K EUR for ICE or 40K EUR for BEV, both with same price tag in dealership + BEV has other benefits like cheaper parking etc.

if gov were to remove these artificial (B)EV tax benefits then we would really see what would people choose, but gov is completely influecing the market, so people just do what is currently beneficial for their wallet, it is for sure not due to EV being good, do you think people would buy EVs if tax rates were reversed and ICE would cost 40K EUR and BEV would cost 73K EUR?

stevesimmons 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe that's a fair price for the externalities of fossil fuels.

soco 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Data set of one: yes I would. I despise the stink of fumes. And generally, I see zero advantages of gas over EV - also the other way around - a car is a car, costs some, takes you from A to B, unless it's some hobby (which is not this discussion).

Markoff 4 hours ago | parent [-]

some sure would, but do you seriously think 97% of private buyers would rather pay 30000 EUR extra (or double the retail price) for those few BEV advantages? I really doubt that, these sales are all just tax policy and nothing to do with BEV benefits

zero ICE advantages?

1. lower price (if gov doesn't destroy market with taxes/benefits)

2. much bigger range

3. you can refill the tank in few minutes without any planning pretty much anywhere

4. you are saving the roads since ICE is usually much lighter than comparable BEV, cars should pay road tax based on their weight as main factor

5. cheaper per km expenses (vs fast chargers, half of the DK population lives in apartments)

OTOH BEV advantages:

1. better acceleration

2. quieter

3. simpler engine, so in theory less maintenance and higher longetivity

btw. you don't smell stink of your fumes, so your EV doesn't really solve this problem

I really doubt (most) people care about acceleration/noise and maintenance that much they would be willing to pay double price of the ICE and get those disadvantages

Don't get me wrong, I am fan of EVs, but under normal market conditions. Bring me Chinese EVs for Chinese price and if EV will be actually cheaper than some European ICE, then people can accept those EV disadvantages, but at current prices which are already not real thanks to gov it just doesn't make sense for someone not living in their own house with PV.

soco 2 hours ago | parent [-]

ICE arguments: 1. debatable, today it's definitely not (I don't discuss imaginary situations). 2. I don't care, I don't drive thousand km. 3. and when I do, I do highway stops anyway, where the quick charger easily catches up. 4. "should" - again imaginary argument, I'll skip. 5. My actual electric costs are exactly half than gas previously (also, fast charging can happen in garages/parking spots). EV arguments: 1. again I don't care, racing is for kids. 2. inside they're both quiet. 3. indeed in two years no engine issues yet, but the car being new surely helped.

So, like I said: to me a car is just a car. But no stink and less cost so far.