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limagnolia a day ago

Too bad that article doesn't have any evidence that the alleged cuts have had any impact on the cyclospora response.

tantalor a day ago | parent | next [-]

It's in the subheading:

> “Based on simple math, these outbreak responses—which require rapid, timely responses—are going to be greatly diminished,” the former CDC lab director tells WIRED.

limagnolia a day ago | parent [-]

Thats not evidence.

tantalor 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Is expert testimony not evidence?

afavour a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Surely the burden of proof here is proving that a 70% headcount reduction doesn’t make a difference.

rco8786 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you think that cutting funding to a lab would improve or hinder its ability to react to an outbreak like this one?

bix6 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You think an agency with less people can more capably do its job? Come on now.

dzhiurgis a day ago | parent | next [-]

Whenever I work for large corporations or government I wanna blow my brain how slow things move. Literally days work in a month.

Yes, small teams can be more productive.

I've took a ~2x pay cut just not to sit in those unproductive meetings and grind instead.

limagnolia a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes! I have no idea if that is the case here, but absolutely yes.

collingreen 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Boy have I got a bridge to sell you!

frumper a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Just wait until 1 of those 3 employees left has surgery and needs FMLA, or out on maternity leave. Then it'll be even more capable. /s

bix6 a day ago | parent [-]

Maternity leave? Women aren’t allowed to work in the Hegseth era!

preg_match 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don’t believe you need evidence when simple reasoning will do. Less people = less likelihood of an appropriate and timely response.

mplewis a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

what would make you think that a downsized lab can do the same amount of work

solid_fuel a day ago | parent | next [-]

They’re not thinking. They like the cuts, and DOGE, and musk, and the feel of that boot coming down on the neck. So they’re making post hoc rationalizations for everything.

It’s certainly not motivated by principles or a concern for reality.

mysterydip a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Some people think that the only ones downsized were the “dead weight”, so therefore, with them and their bureaucracy out of the way, the remaining people will be faster and better able to do their real work. From what I’ve seen, this is not the case. If anything, the opposite may have happened.

antonymoose a day ago | parent | prev [-]

What would make you think this would have prevented the incident?

Balinares a day ago | parent | next [-]

Man shoots himself in the foot then turns up limping, it's probably not that his shoes are too tight.

antonymoose a day ago | parent [-]

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jrflowers a day ago | parent [-]

> The alleged team involved had nothing to do with prevention - Go back to Reddit :)

“Alleged team” lol

You know what the team was doing but you’re not sure that it existed

paleotrope a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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antonymoose a day ago | parent | next [-]

No one has actually managed to show that this team that was involved actually had responsibilities that would have prevented this incident which is literally what I asked.

But go “dunk” on someone on the internet for political team clout, you’re definitely making the world a better place.

michaelmrose 21 hours ago | parent [-]

The only people in a position to show this are the idiots responsible for the current broken system. Deep analysis will have to come after regime change

site-packages1 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Hasn't happened before, suddenly happens now after the cuts. It's not too complicated. People are dying and people have died. The new administration must collect all available evidence and then submit to grand juries for prosecution.

nomel a day ago | parent [-]

This was a response team not a prevention team.

jknoepfler a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As engineers we know that you can't catch everything. You build resilient systems by learning from your failures and investing/iterating in better practices over time. If you want to find out how to sabotage your company really quickly, just throw a bunch of politically radicalized interns with stupid red hats at your testing, QA, dev/ops, security, customer success (+etc) procedures, slash budgets, randomly, delete test suites and see where you land. Then when things go wrong, make sure your defense is "well we don't know they would have caught anything anyway."

The cuts were actual. There's no sense in calling something that is a matter of open public record which has been widely reported on "alleged."

I understand MAGA types like to fall over themselves to evade responsibility for their actions, because they think truth is a shell game and reality has no meaningful consequences if you deny them loudly enough (see: deaths due to science denialism during the covid response and shilling of bro-science alternative medicine, upsurge in preventable illnesses like measles due to vaccine denialism, brain drain from the insane gutting of public research funding institutions and cynical re-alignment of said institutions around corporations that donated to the presidency, drastic consequences of global warming, consequences of 2A zealotry in the form of school and other mass shootings... and so on and so forth).

The hard reality is that we've been trying to get a handle on food safety for over a century. It is incredibly laborious, difficult work that requires knowledge of the many and various ways contaminants make it into the food supply, how food producers like Taylor Farms obfuscate or lie to avoid legal liability or costly regulation, and knowledge of the law and how to shape and administer it effectively. If you slash regulatory agencies that have emerged over decades to own and shepherd this work, you're going to have to own up to a lot of nasty shit over the next few decades.

In my state, water pollution was so bad in the 70s and 80s you couldn't swim in major lakes and streams. Now you can. We got there through sustained public investment in regulation and oversight. We need more of that, not less.

someguydave 13 hours ago | parent [-]

“MAGA types”

twister2920 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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