Yes, the safe assumption is that Apple reads all your mail. Not that any other provider is better---most are probably worse.

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bantunes a day ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think they read all of it. Probably just metadata. But would be good to know what's being sent.

	▲	iAMkenough a day ago \| parent [-]
		Assume their AI agent now file system indexer is reading all your email on their behalf.

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zikduruqe a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For a company who hangs their hat on privacy, it is a dang shame that their native mail client can't support PGP/GnuPG. I mean it'll do S/MIME, but who uses that regularly.

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tjoff a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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Barbing a day ago | parent [-]

Figure they do it for three-letter agencies who’re not in my threat model, otherwise I’d have to spend much time busying with… Whonix? Tails? Qubes?

And lose/reimplement my Universal Clipboard and AirDrop and iMessage… (so yeah I deserve consequences of my love of convenience)

Though the more Apple fails to choose the good soap the more I should worry https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49074631

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tjoff a day ago | parent [-]

I don't think you have to look far nor hard for a mail-client that doesn't communicate with the developer because you send an email...

Universal Clipboard, AirDrop and iMessage - is that really the value add of apple? iMessage... do we really want to encourage that behavior?

	▲	Hugsbox a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		>Universal Clipboard, AirDrop and iMessage - is that really the value add of apple? iMessage... do we really want to encourage that behavior? I genuinely don't understand your point here, you're just listing off really awesome and useful features. Particularly iMessage, absolutely phenomenal product. What are you actually trying to convey here?
	▲	spacedcowboy a day ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		> Universal Clipboard, AirDrop and iMessage - is that really the value add of apple? iMessage... do we really want to encourage that behavior? Er, yes ? iMessage is awesome.
	▲	zer0zzz a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> Universal Clipboard, AirDrop and iMessage - is that really the value add of apple? Yes. I want my desktop and mobile systems to have a widely deployed system for beaming files and text quickly. That’s like a fundamental feature that most platforms don’t even attempt to figure out. > iMessage... do we really want to encourage that behavior? Yes. I want to encourage companies shipping a widely used, secure, native, cross-device messaging feature consistently over the course of almost two decades with no ads or annoying features like stories and communities. I also wanna add that iMessage is one of the few widely used apps out there that doesn’t require a smartphone to be alive for it to consistently work. I could put the thing on a desktop in my office and use it like email if I wanted. With many of the others it is very hard to get away from the mobile experience that can be very attention grabbing.