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FrustratedMonky an hour ago

Yep, that is what the bet is. The build out will continue, even if it looks different.

The Internet was a 'bubble' at one point, and after it crashed in 2000, it didn't go away, it continued to build out. We're still using the Internet after the Internet bubble popped.

hajile 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

On a $100B AI datacenter, some 60-70% of the center needs to be replaced every 2-6 years. These companies claim the hardware lasts 6 years while simultaneously claiming they are relying on new hardware to lower inference costs (implying much more frequent updates).

Over 40 years, that's 7-20 hardware changes, that turns into between $420B and $1.4T of ongoing investment (not accounting for inflation). The $30B that is called "infrastructure" only accounts for 2-7% of the overall bill.

This is NOTHING like fiber buildouts because the fiber lasts the whole 40 years with ZERO replacements and very close to 100% of the cost is infrastructure rather than a tiny percentage.

FrustratedMonky 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

I've been through several network upgrades. You are saying the fiber in the ground lasts a long time, but all the equipment on either end gets replaced every ~5 years. I agree this build out seems pretty crazy, but people were saying the same thing with the internet. Arguing if the equipment has a replacement rate of 2-6 years or 30-40 years, I think isn't the part that makes this a bubble.

kibwen 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

For fiber, the main costs were not the fiber itself, but acquiring the rights to lay the fiber and the labor to do so. The equipment at either end has a lifespan of somewhat less that 50 years, but that's a minor cost.

Conversely, for the data centers we're talking about, the cost of the things that need replacing every five years is one of the primary costs.