There is one rule of thumb that I’ve noticed: if you are a reasonable person and integrate you will be treated as one of their own. Otherwise not.

Your article mirrors my own experience 1:1, it’s like I’ve written it myself. Apart from the citizenship process. Even though it was also 14 months long (eerie lol), I had to do a lot of noise about it, because they are processing applications out of order (some people got theirs in two weeks, some in two years, no rhyme or reason) - press, meetings with local politicians etc. Which helped my personal case but didn’t fix the problem at all.

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Yasuraka a day ago | parent [-]

> if you are a reasonable person and integrate you will be treated as one of their own.

You won't, even if you were born and raised here - 3rd generation Turks get treated worse after 60 years than Ukranians after 4, let alone someone with an arab name, all else being equal[1]. This is natural in almost all nations for its humans in all of them, but the rampant arrogance and hypocrisy is exceptional and one does no good reinforcing it.

[1] https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/ausbildung-migrationshinter...

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Behemoth66 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"3rd generation Turks" Because they are famously a case of not having assimilated to Germany but instead over-assimilated to an islamist-conservative Turkey.

"Q: Where would you live if you were a hyper-nationalist Turk? A: Germany"

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throwaway2037 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

My hot take about Turks struggling to integrate: The didn't try hard enough. They held on to too much of their Islamic religion and culture. It didn't mix well with the primarily Christian religion and culture of Germany. The Ukranians have much more culturally in common with Germans which is why they have integrated so much faster.

	▲	Yasuraka 18 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You are describing assimilation, not integration, also disproven by the fact that the name alone is the only differentiator in this example. Plenty of justifications will be found ex-facto in any case, all are excuses. I'm not claiming any nation to be above racism, in fact globally most are worse, but this one is really high on its own supply.