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storus 2 hours ago

I think the window for a ban of open weight models is closing fast so let's hope US administration is going to miss it and we get Fable-level models (at least in some aspects) with open weights without infringing any newly introduced law as a long-term local baseline.

Fordec 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Even if the US does ban it, Europe due to its lack of European competitors, has no current similar protectionist incentives. Even if there is regulatory capture in the US, the rest of the world isn't going to follow suit until the current market leaders outright are replaced with other competitors that Europe would want to favor. The genie is out of the bottle in the West already.

gilgoomesh 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> lack of European competitors

There's Mistral. Although they've been surprisingly quiet for the last 6 months.

coredev_ 16 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean there is Mistral?

Daishiman an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

What can the US administration do about it?

root_axis an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Send you to jail.

CamperBob2 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Level 1: Anyone using unauthorized model weights in their business is prohibited from doing business with the government...

Level 2: ... or with anyone who does.

Level 3: Anyone caught with unauthorized model weights is subject to the same prosecution they could expect if they had been caught with CSAM.

protocolture an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

What they always do. Send in armed men with guns? Export Controls. Import Controls. National Security Laws.

xeromal an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Good luck doing that in China?

HDBaseT 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You can send armed men to your house, or restrict companies in America from using these models.

They can also restrict US providers from serving these models. Looking at OpenRouter, there is currently 11 providers for 'DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731' with the only non-US one being Deepseek themselves, which aren't even the cheapest.

protocolture 10 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

>Good luck doing that in China.

Crazy how all the 5 eyes nations banned Huawei within like 18 months of each other.

nechuchelo an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Import control would only affect US? Also good luck sending armed men to China.