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kccqzy 11 hours ago

You think it’s done only because you are not ambitious enough. And neither is Tesla. A Hyundai charges faster than a Tesla. Chinese cars from several brands are getting five-minute charging times. If you think that’s a straw man I don’t know what to say; a buyer wants charging to be as fast as pumping gas, and are you going to blame buyer stupidity for not delivering on that?

aetherspawn 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But which brands last longer than a Tesla? None. That’s because faster charging wears out the battery. Charging fast is not marvellous, actually it requires a lot of self-control from the manufacturers to limit charging speed for longevity, even though most people won’t understand why.

satvikpendem 10 hours ago | parent [-]

No, because Chinese EVs have advanced in battery technology too above Tesla.

> CATL also says the battery retains more than 90% of its original capacity after 1,000 ultra-fast charging cycles

https://www.evdances.com/blogs/news/hongqi-unveils-ultra-fas...

ivewonyoung 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Tesla buys batteries from CATL.

Grombobulous 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

China is even doing 90 second automated robotic battery swap stations.

IncreasePosts 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, I would blame the buyer for thinking it's important at this point. It's almost a meme response to EVs.

All you need to do is an honest look at how many days a year you drive 500+ miles per day. People can't seem to do that and fixate on the ultra long distance road trip that they might make once per year. And neglecting to realize that they stop for bathroom breaks and food and so the actual time you're simply waiting for charging is, at best, maybe 20-30 minutes per year.

99% of the time you would be plugging your car into the charger at your house. And it just charges overnight.

I guess it's different if people have no way to charge their car at home or have it plugged in overnight. But in that case a lot of times they can pick up charge while at work, or whole doing grocery shopping, etc.

kccqzy 6 hours ago | parent [-]

No. You are presupposing a particular usage of a car and imposing that on a potential buyer. I take the train or bike to work, so for me my car is only for weekend trips. That’s why I bought the fastest-charging car available at that time.

Even for road trips there are different ways to approach it. Some people just want to get to their destination fast and don’t mind eating at wherever the charger is. Others take road trips differently and would want to eat at the best restaurant at each local town they pass through, which may not be where chargers are. And if there are many passengers the bathroom breaks are usually not aligned with when the car needs charging. The perfect scenario of getting food or bathroom breaks exactly when the car needs charging could be a rare scenario.