Not everyone wants the same thing from a car. Some care most about the price, some about the efficiency, some about the size, some about the comfort, some about the charging speed despite what you say.

If Telsa were still innovating, they'd have rounded out their offerings to fill in the gaps that are now getting filled with other brands in the world outside the USA.

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Grombobulous 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I keep shouting from the rooftops that Tesla’s lack of offerings has them completely hamstrung.

Tesla sells more vehicles than Mazda, and both brands are in a similar semi-premium non-luxury segment. Compare lineups between these brands.

How does Mazda have 3.5 SUVs and Tesla only has 1.5? (The .5 is counting the CX-70 and CX-90, and the Y and YL as essentially the same car)

Mazda is able to offer a sedan and hatchback variant of the 3.

They also have a city car in Europe, the Mazda 2. Absolutely nothing in the segment from Tesla.

And of course, Mazda has the legendary MX-5, which chugs along selling a very respectable quantity while the Tesla Roadster remains MIA.

Where is Tesla’s lineup? For being a being China-focused brand, where is their premium/luxury van? For being a US-focused brand, where is their family 3-row Grand Highlander killer? How did they botch a truck made in Texas?

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foogazi 9 hours ago | parent [-]

> Tesla sells more vehicles than Mazda

Isn’t that all that matters ?

	▲	ben_w an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Isn’t that all that matters ? Where the ball is vs. where the ball is heading. Musk (and TSLA shareholders keeping the price where it is) is arguing the ball is heading to robotics and AI; I think we're at least a decade from the robotics+AI vision he's trying to sell the dream of, and in the meantime he may lose the car business by everyone else out-innovating on vehicles with regards to stuff he's either lost interest in, or lost the trust of the best designers an engineers to hire to work on for him.
	▲	Grombobulous 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		My point is that they don’t have a wide enough breadth of models and that’s holding them back, and the fact that lower volume brands have more models and appeal to a wider range of customers helps demonstrate that.