Good. Most tech unions are worthless and only accelerate outsourcing. Unions can be good though, like in construction where the work is inherently dangerous.

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cogman10 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Here's the union's demands. [1] Which of them do you find particularly unreasonable?

[1] https://wikiworkersunited.org/focus-areas/

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matchbok3 a day ago | parent [-]

> Hold management accountable to promises made to staff

This is just silly. Management are the most accountable people in any organization. This makes no sense.

	▲	cogman10 a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		They are held accountable, but are they held accountable to the staff? If so, how-so? In my experience, management rarely has any sort of reverse checks in place. The closest is employee manager feedback. Which this demand > Guarantee ability to safely express dissent Makes me think that staff has been trained not to share true feelings on such feedback.
	▲	rimbo789 a day ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Hahahahahahahahahahahahha. Tell another joke I have never worked a place where management was even remotely held accountable for their decisions, their corruption, their abuse of power or their fecklessness. Unions now; unions tomorrow; unions forever.
	▲	inigyou a day ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Only to the board of directors.
	▲	miltonlost a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		LMAO. Management? Accountable? Golden parachutes say hi

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casey2 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How are unions worthless? First they can prevent unsustainable growth. Wikipedia doesn't need to grow, second they prevent exploitation of the worker, why should some random person treat wikipedia as their personal lottery wikipedia wasn't a new, or good, or well executed idea. It's a basic service that helps collate information.

What's wrong with outsourcing? That's what we do with all our bad ideas. Need to blow leaves from one side of the street to the other? Get a Mexican to do it. This frees up people to have better ideas, like well written articles that don't have a hundred irrelevant links littering the page.

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amazingamazing a day ago | parent [-]

This comment is pretty representative of why tech unions are worthless. Form a union to stop growth, and you pay your hard earned salary into such an organization with these goals?

	▲	inigyou a day ago \| parent [-]
		Read WP:CANCER, there's a good argument. Wikipedia keeps spending its donations on useless stuff and therefore needs more and more donations each year. If it just stuck to running Wikipedia and a few side things, it would already be funded for 1000 years.

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cyanydeez a day ago | parent | prev [-]

yes, yes, blame the victims. It's always the fault of the pedestrian for being in the road.

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amazingamazing a day ago | parent | next [-]

Go read why they want to unionize

	▲	spopejoy 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Hmm someone responded to you with their demands, asking which demand you find unreasonable, no response? Does your prompt forbid actually reading responses?
	▲	sassbadger a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Why don't you enlighten us.

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CrimsonRain a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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	▲	cholantesh a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		So paid overtime, vacation, parental and sick leave, and 40 hour work weeks are, in fact, shameless excesses that have made office work worse?
	▲	inigyou a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Capitalists have the same option. Don't like the union? Resign.