| ▲ | Carrok a day ago |
| Bit of an aside but I found it somewhat amusing that one example the author uses of Jim’s financial recklessness was getting into home brewing. Home brewing is one of the cheaper hobbies available (though like all hobbies you can spend as much as you want). The only real requirements are a bucket and a pot. |
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| ▲ | yesimahuman a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| Same with a $10k tree slicer, when the actually expensive alternatives that really get people in trouble are day trading, real estate, car collecting, divorce, and starting new businesses that fail. |
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| ▲ | sneak a day ago | parent | next [-] | | I think he meant a live edge wooden table, not a machine to slice trees. | |
| ▲ | JuniperMesos a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Bay area housing costs are so expensive that a $10k fancy wooden table starts to look like a reasonably-priced piece of furniture. The expensive thing is the housing square footage to put the table in. |
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| ▲ | storywatch a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Now general aviation on the other hand.. |
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| ▲ | codemog a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Same with the cat and the dog. |
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| ▲ | nunez a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's cheap until you think "we should start a brewery!" Then it becomes wildly, absurdly expensive. The hobby itself can get costly though. So much equipment to buy. And space. |
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| ▲ | arbuge a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > He lost focus and became reckless. He bought some fancy tree slice table for 10k bucks, got into brewing beer, got a dog, a cat, and overall, went completely over himself financially. Well, he also mentions getting a dog and a cat in that context. Recklessness is relative I guess. The cat would certainly agree though I suppose, when it sees that dog walking in the door... |
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| ▲ | MeetingsBrowser a day ago | parent [-] | | I think it’s to show that he lost the laser focused drive to succeed. Before he was willing to make big sacrifices to “make it”. And on the first step of the ladder to success he started taking on other responsibilities for fun. |
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| ▲ | mohamedkoubaa a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Home brewing is one of those hobbies that are only expensive if you poast hard enough |
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| ▲ | fnord77 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Not if you have a contract brewery make your "creations" |
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| ▲ | schrodinger a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| How much more likely does becoming a home brewer make you to develop alcoholism, especially for someone who sounds a bit predisposed like Jim? |
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| ▲ | jitl a day ago | parent | next [-] | | it’s infinitely easier to become an alcoholic by buying alcohol at a grocery store. brewing is pretty much the least direct most delayed gratification way to get drunk. i guess it can be pretty cheap if you optimize for that but it sounds like jim made enough money and high flying friends it’s unlikely to be major factor. | | |
| ▲ | fragmede a day ago | parent [-] | | Though, after you've home brewed the beer, you've now got potentially gallons of beer in a giant pot that you have to bottle yourself. Or you could be lazy and just drink it yourself. True, you could just go down to the store and grab a 30-rack of mass produced beer if you wanted to be an alcoholic, but having a vat of beer in your kitchen that isn't going to drink itself and is gonna go bad if you don't, is a different kind of peer pressure. | | |
| ▲ | ip26 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | If it's just sitting there in your kitchen beckoning you, I think that's called beer pressure? | |
| ▲ | Carrok a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | A standard home brewing batch is 5 gallons. Or 40 pints. While it is a crazy world and I don’t want to say no one has ever done what you described, it would be an outlier to say the least. Home brewed beer is generally bottled or put into a keg and tapped. (Almost) no one is just drinking warm uncarbonated beer from the fermenter. | | |
| ▲ | Arainach a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Kegerators are easy and quite affordable to build. I absolutely have friends who stopped home brewing because they realized that having a tap of readily available beer in their house wasn't a good idea. | |
| ▲ | s1artibartfast a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Even if someone did it wouldn't be the worst thing. That's a pint a day for a bit more than a month. The median Drinker / non teetotaler consumes about 0.5 drinks per day. People with severe alcohol use disorder often consume 10 to 20 drink equivalents a day, most commonly cheap hard liquor. Basically no alcoholic is going to be brewing a keg every couple days for self consumption. | | |
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| ▲ | lovich 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You can get handles of vodka for 11 dollars. You can buy listerine for even cheaper and drink that. People brewing their own beer may be alcoholics but they are doing it for the hobby or to customize the flavor. Real down in the throes of addiction alcoholics are not becoming chemists for their fix with how cheap the mass produced stuff is. If you want to find people doing that you look for the illegal drugs that haven't had wide spread industries drive down the price, like meth. | |
| ▲ | phrygian a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | beer pressure you meant? |
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| ▲ | apsurd a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | You must not drink or like beer. Brewing something until it ferments into alcohol is the most basic thing ever. There is the very simple problem of taste that is the issue. |
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