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reticulates 2 hours ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_hack

moffkalast 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It's always struck me as odd that TLDs are not just, well, freely configurable? Domains have always been subject to so much artificial scarcity for seemingly no reason. Why can't a DNS resolver handle .whatever?

inigyou an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The social fabric of the system would fall apart if people could trivially buy top level domains. Even the not so trivial buying that ICANN began in 2015 in order to profiteer was a serious mistake (to everyone besides ICANN).

it would be a global first come first serve namespace. Everything conceivable would be registered. Only the diversity of TLDs and SLDs saves the current DNS from this. In fact ICANN's money-grubbing TLD spam actually improved this, since there are now far too many TLDs to squat them all.

christina97 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This wouldn’t really reduce the scarcity though. Right now everyone wants a “.com”, because it’s the convention. If you could buy the TLD “widget” for the same price as “widget.com”, then you would just move up one level in the domain hierarchy and have the same scarcity? If anything, the fact that there are several legitimate TLD options reduces the scarcity a tiny bit?

As an aside (I’m also annoyed by domain squatters etc), it is a fascinating market study how domains are artificially scarce the way they are when everyone can easily and cheaply buy them. I am not sure there is any reasonable solution to it.

culi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe it's useful for ICANN to delegate management to different orgs (mostly corporations) so they don't have to control every single website on earth directly

I would actually prefer for the ICANN to have even less power and for the whole system to be even more distributed

inigyou an hour ago | parent [-]

What we should have is a root zone consisting only of country codes, and technical TLDs like .arpa, and no central authority on this file. It should be reasonable enough to get consensus on who runs the DNS root for each country. These don't change too frequently. And then each country can do whatever it wants inside its own TLD.

The problem is the US is grandfathered in without staying inside its TLD. This was manageable when it was just .com .org .net etc. but now ICANN has abused this position to mint thousands of new US TLDs outside of .us. If they were inside .us this would only be a problem for whoever runs .us but because they are top-level it makes it difficult to have a decentralised root zone and not just rely on what ICANN publishes. Which is part of the point I'm sure.

Foorack 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It can, you just need to pay $210,000 to buy that TLD.

dgellow an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I thought they were auctioned?

moffkalast 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hmm okay to rephrase my question, why are ICANN such money grubbing assholes? Is it a political thing?

edent 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The boring answer is that infrastructure costs money.

You either use taxes from everyone to pay for it or you take money from the people using the thing.

r_lee 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

it's like Wikipedia begging for money saying they don't have enough

inigyou an hour ago | parent [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_C... btw

Don't give them money until they stop wasting what they have, and chastise them for begging so hard.

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doublerabbit 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because they can; it's a racket. Like paid SSL certificates, all of it is corporate greed.

One solution is running your own DNS servers. This way you can list your own TLD's. However good luck in convincing others to change their DNS.

wizzwizz4 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Obligatory shout-out to OpenNIC: https://servers.opennic.org/

culi 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I never heard of OpenNIC before! Cool project. I wonder how complicated would it be for a layperson like me to have my website work on OpenNIC and regular DNS at the same time

inigyou an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I tried to join OpenNIC once but, like many such small informal organisations, the ingroup dynamics are quite toxic.

matheusmoreira an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What's odd is there seems to be no viable alternatives to DNS at all. Everybody just standardized on this ancient phone book technology managed by some rent seeking "assigned numbers" organization and now there is no escape from it.

charcircuit 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It can. You just have to abandon ICANN's.

PunchyHamster 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The reason is money