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meheleventyone 21 hours ago

> Regardless of believing in the “singularity” or not, please explain how this sounds utopian in the slightest without borderline (if not literal) sociopathic anti-human worldviews.

There was a guy on here the other day trying to argue that Brave New World wasn't a dystopian novel. There are some absolutely wiiild world views out there.

AndrewDucker 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Pretty much everyone in Brave New World is happy.

You might not like the society they've built, but there are certainly arguments that a society where most people are happy is pretty utopian.

(It's very debatable, of course, but it's not instantly dismissable)

magicalist 16 hours ago | parent [-]

> there are certainly arguments that a society where most people are happy is pretty utopian

Sure, like a pig, in a cage, on antibiotics...and an AI life companion in their ear. What I can't understand is why they're still on a forum with humans when they can go have that today.

AndrewDucker 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Not antibiotics? Surely nobody could be happy with that! Truly they are a terror.

ben_w 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> There was a guy on here the other day trying to argue that Brave New World wasn't a dystopian novel. There are some absolutely wiiild world views out there.

I think that's likely to be all the sex and drugs? Though I'm basing that on the Wikipedia plot summary. I have no interest in darkening my day by actually reading any work that can be rightly described as "dystopian".

jrm4 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm almost 50, but I absolutely could see how someone younger could view it that way -- precisely because the present is much more similar to than novel than it used to be?

Like, "cautionary" but not full on "dystopian."