Meta-commentary on this discussion: okay, I know the ‘hacker news’ thing has always been kinda a misnomer, and has gotten moreso. But it’s still kind of shocking to me how little people here value making something, versus pretending to make something. There’s value to actually doing stuff.

The amount of “all artists will use AI to pretend to make stuff, because money” is honestly kinda bizarre, and completely misunderstands the motivations of most artists, writers and makers.

The problem isn't the "real" artists, it's everyone else.

> There’s value to actually doing stuff.

Maybe sometimes. But rarely. Usually value is in the actual stuff.