I get all of these with more or less recent (2023) Mazda here in Japan, but all of them can be turned off in settings. Are they always-on in EU?

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mdp2021 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

(I checked the directives weeks ago.)

In the eu, the general idea is "you can disable the functions each time you restart the car - they will be re-enabled as the car is off".

Some people spend minutes turning off the annoying parts from the settings before starting the car, each time.

	▲	d--b 32 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It’s the main thing they tell you when you buy a new car. Press here 4 times, then here 3 times, then here once, and you’re good.

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c7b an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I haven't driven a recent model but afaik the answer for most is Yes, or at best you can disable them for the current ride and they turn on again automatically on every start.

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maxgashkov an hour ago | parent [-]

That's quite insane then. Especially the lane departure warning / assist was downright dangerous in snowy conditions when the road markings became partially covered, I cannot imagine driving with that setting on all the time.

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Griffinsauce an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The "lane assist" is very dangerous. I don't understand how this got in cars to begin with, nevermind become mandatory.

It's super "fun" with temporary marking around road works. I bet it works perfectly in a lab but in the real world..

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consp 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

I've never had a point where it is dangerous. It vibrates the steering wheel and that's it. Even on the autobahn's 2.20m wide roadwork left lanes it works good/not bad enough I just leave it on. Lane keeping is not mandatory, only a warning system.

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maxgashkov 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

I guess it depends on the maker. For my car it nudges the wheel back into the lane in addition to vibrating.

	▲	microtonal 21 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Yep, it does, our VW also nudges back to the lane. The annoying thing is that you can only disable it by stepping through two pages on the on-board screen, though I think many newer models just have a button on the steering wheel to toggle it.

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mdp2021 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> Especially the lane departure ... assist was downright dangerous in snowy conditions

And near cyclists...

(Opposite to some configurations described nearby, some car models do automatically steer pushing the car in its lane, they do not just warn the driver.)

	▲	microtonal 22 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		We have a car with lane assist. But as far as I have seen (but can be mistaken), collision avoidance has a higher priority, so it would prefer avoiding a cyclist ov er staying in lane (though if the road is small, it might just start breaking).