> For the Code Agent tasks among the public benchmarks above, DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731 is evaluated with the minimal mode of DeepSeek Harness (to be released) as the agent framework

So, are they planning to announce an optimized coding agent harness as well ? DSv4 flash is a fantastic model, and my daily driver. With reasonix or pi, I can code all day long and pay a few pennies for it. No token anxiety. Whereas the same model with fireworks/openrouter, with zdr thrown in, token costs ratchet up with no explanation. Likely that the model is subsidized for gathering usage data. I am waiting for the day I can run this locally.

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L8D 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you're not paying for the model through Open router, then which provider are you buying it from? I thought that if that provider was listed on open router it would be the same price as going directly to the provider? Are you buying from a provider that isn't listed on open router already?

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bwfan123 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> Are you buying from a provider that isn't listed on open router already

I am using openrouter with zdr guardrail which routes to any provider that supposedly doesnt train on user data. I also use fireworks (directly, not via openrouter) which is a provider promising zdr and has a bunch of open weights models. My issue is that these zdr providers dont transparently disclose caching/tokens etc and so they end up being far more expensive than directly using DS.

	▲	x312 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Have you tried Novita? They're zdr and I find they usually have better cache hit rates than fireworks. No affiliation.

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segmondy 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They announced it already, read the tech report.

"For the Code Agent tasks among the public benchmarks above, DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731 is evaluated with the minimal mode of DeepSeek Harness (to be released) as the agent framework, using the max reasoning effort level with temperature = 1.0, top_p = 0.95."

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bwfan123 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> They announced it already

I meant something I could download and run.

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ignoramous an hour ago | parent [-]

Isn't Reasonix [0] DeepSeek's own harness? Or, are they building a new one?

[0] https://reasonix.io/

	▲	jimmydoe an hour ago \| parent [-]
		DS were hiring harness Eng team on x a while ago.