This is a straightforward false equivalency. “Western” models do not censor in the same way, nor for the same reasons, that the Chinese models do. “Just as much” is not remotely plausible, yet it’s doing all the heavy lifting.

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adrian_b 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The Anthropic and OpenAI models are much more censored and in ways that directly prevent them to be useful, e.g. by refusing to reply to elementary questions of biology and chemistry.

Any normal user is much more likely to ask questions to which the Anthropic and OpenAI models do not answer, than to ask questions about the modern Chinese history, to which a Chinese LLM will not answer.

	▲	rescbr 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> questions about the modern Chinese history, to which a Chinese LLM will not answer This has been debunked here on HN so many times. The Chinese open models do answer the hairy Chinese political questions, and the raw APIs pass-through the response. Now, the answer might be blocked by the agent who's calling the API, specially if you are using a Chinese endpoint instead of the RoW (i.e. Singapore) endpoint. That's the reason why you should always prefer a open agent/harness as well instead of using the provider's.

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net01 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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